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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: OrangeAfroMan on February 27, 2022, 07:03:40 AM
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For this exercise, just keep it to their stand-up careers.
Top 2 vote-getters will get their faces chiseled into fictional rock.
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If it's unanimous or nearly so, we can run it again.
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Wrote in Greg Giraldo who along with Jeff Ross were like the new Don Rickles.OAM it did not register my Dangerfield vote I thought I hit the mark
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No list is complete without Larry The Cable Guy
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I guess I should have listed 47 comics.....my bad.
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Lewis Grizzard would be on mine along with Bob Hope and Henny Youngman.
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Were they during the silent film era?
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https://youtu.be/m3D6Qc6uByo
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Were they during the silent film era?
I didn't see anything about an era being limited to this or that.
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Robin Williams
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If there are only three, then it is more of a Stone Mountain than a Mt Rushmore.
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I think we might get another round of voting after this one
Steve MArtin will get my next vote
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If there are only three, then it is more of a Stone Mountain than a Mt Rushmore.
There's going to be a winner and a runner-up......which makes 4.
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I think we might get another round of voting after this one
Steve MArtin will get my next vote
Steve Martin got my first vote!
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Everyone's sense of humor is different, and probably just showing my age, but Dave Chappelle & Jerry Seinfeld???
I had to look up Chappelle & never thought Jerry was very funny - never understood why the TV show was popular - never watched more than one or two episodes
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I always liked Jim Jeffries and Frank Boyle. Something about raunchy humor delivered with funny accents (Australian and Scottish, respectively) gets me in stitches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATgPDX6ul9w
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never thought Jerry was very funny - never understood why the TV show was popular - never watched more than one or two episodes
Ed Zachery or his show either. Or Friends what a pathetic charade.I Liked Home Improvement,Becker,Frazier,3rd Rock from the Sun,Two and a half Men.There were a few episodes with the Soup Nazi - all right then the double dipping episode at an after Funeral Reception about it though
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I had to look up Chappelle & never thought Jerry was very funny - never understood why the TV show was popular - never watched more than one or two episodes
I guy at work claimed that was a great TV show, so I watched 1-2 episodes and thought it was awful. Over time, being bored, I started again on NF or whatever and started to "get it". I find it amusing at times, not really hilariously funny, but entertaining.
I saw Bob Hope live and almost didn't go, he was hilarious, I was laughing almost nonstop. I saw Bill Cosby twice live before the Thing, and he was pretty funny.
Lewis Grizzard is more wistfully funny, but at times hilarious.
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Guy many have prolly never heard of Bobby Slayton - the pitbull of Comedy saw him twice live. Great Shows
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Seinfeld's stand up was never funny to me. But the show was hilarious- but that's largely because of Larry David's writing and Kramer and George Costanza characters and the actors who played them. Even on the show though, Jerry wasn't that funny.
I don't really think of Robin Williams as a stand-up. More of an incredible performer. And by the way, as a stand-up he was notorious for stealing other peoples stuff.
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Oh and Pryor and Carlin are the obvious 2.
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I personally love Hedberg, Jeffress, and Gaffigan, but I recognize they're not going to be on the Rushmore of comedians.
I think Chappelle is 3rd for many under the age of 100 and then there's so much variety after that......
Acknowledging his genius, Robin Williams was just exhausting.
I feel like Eddie Murphy got by on one famous routine and Dangerfield was sort of a 1-trick pony (at least by the late 80s-early 90s).
When comedians are asked about the best, they seem to always mention Bruce and Hicks. I've never seen either.
I'd have Rock as my 4th.
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I always liked Jim Jeffries and Frank Boyle. Something about raunchy humor delivered with funny accents (Australian and Scottish, respectively) gets me in stitches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATgPDX6ul9w
Check out Tommy Tiernan. Raunchy and Irish.
Guy many have prolly never heard of Bobby Slayton - the pitbull of Comedy saw him twice live. Great Shows
Funny, yes. Rushmore, no.
Seinfeld's stand up was never funny to me. But the show was hilarious- but that's largely because of Larry David's writing and Kramer and George Costanza characters and the actors who played them. Even on the show though, Jerry wasn't that funny.
I don't really think of Robin Williams as a stand-up. More of an incredible performer. And by the way, as a stand-up he was notorious for stealing other peoples stuff.
I'm the opposite. Love Seinfeld's stand up, no interest in the show.
And to an extent I agree on Robin Williams, and I put Steve Martin in the same category. An absolute force of nature on stage, but not a pure stand up.
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Will no one think of Gallagher
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I thought the beauty of the show Seinfeld was in large part that Jerry was the straight man surrounded by characters who had "drama" in spades. He was the foil, the "normal person" in this menagerie.
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Funny, yes. Rushmore, no.
Because he wasn't mainstream but with the exception of Carlin was the best live act I've seen - friends agreed.Guy named Bobby Collins was decent also
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3D8wxuWEFs
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When my kids were younger and living with me, I had a rule that we/they could not watch any TV show with a laugh track on it. It was amazing how much that eliminated off the top.
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Bob Hope, Don Rickles, Buddy Hacket, Johnathan Winters, Phil Silvers, Milton Berle and others of that era are among my favorites. They were hilarious without being over the top with foul language.
Of the listed comedians, I went with Robin Williams. I heard Richard Pryor talk about a performance were there were 2 stages with Pryor on one and Williams on another. Pryor said that after about 20 mins into his routine, he just stopped and watched Williams as nobody was paying attention to him.
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When that happen?I know later Rich was not Rich of the'70s-80s when he was on top of his game.Health slowly took him down,maybe brought on by lifestyle but still sad to see
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I cannot believe that nobody has picked Amy Schumer.
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I don't believe that women can't be funny, but.......there are zero ladies on the list.
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I don't believe that women can't be funny, but.......there are zero ladies on the list.
women can be funny, just not as funny as men. same way women can play basketball or tennis or run fast- but not as good as men.
women have small brains. a third the size of us. it's science.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6hx1nXe41A
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Will no one think of Gallagher
The sledge-o-matic.
Loved his bit on the English Language.
These days I am a Jim Gaffigan fan. Just don't care for the ones that just use profanities for a laugh.
I'm I the said that Seinfeld's stand-up is not funny, but his show was very funny (Larry David). My wife doesn't understand why I don't like Larry David as an actor, but think he is a great writer.
I was listening to one of the comedy station on Sirrius the other day and they were playing a bunch of the old stuff, Bob Hope, Mort Sahl, Bob Newhart, Jonathan Winters, Milton Berle, Jack Benny, Flip Wilson It was quite entertaining.
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Actually, everyone tells me I'm a very funny guy ...
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Just not here :D
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Best live set I ever saw was Sam Kinison. It was about a year before he died.
I used to be really into standup, in the 80s and early 90s. At some point, I kind of just wore out on it. It's a tough format for me to watch anymore.
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I like the way you think, Boy.
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I don't believe that women can't be funny, but.......there are zero ladies on the list.
Says the guy who posted the list.
Joan Rivers was good back in the day. She'd be the primary one I'd probably consider for inclusion on this list. Possibly Moms Mabley, but I'm basing that purely on reputation as I don't know her work.
There are a lot of really funny ones. Some of the bigger names would of course be Paula Poundstone, Sarah Silverman, Nikki Glaser, Whoopi, Roseanne, Margaret Cho, Ellen Degeneres...
I'm a big-time Kathleen Madigan fan. She's freakin' hilarious.
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So this is a Mt Rushmore. Which means that it has to be more significant than "I think that guy's really funny". It's more about someone who was significant in the craft or importance of stand-up as an art form.
It's like guitarists. Tons of people can play guitar like Jimi Hendrix, or Eddie Van Halen, or even Jack White. It's a matter of learning and practice. But they were creating new sounds, doing new things, which make them more important than someone who learns to play what they did before.
I look at Carlin and Pryor as not only supremely funny, but they helped redefine the entire world of stand-up.
On the above list you can take out certain ones who were "performers". Steve Martin is there. He was hilarious, but he was barely a stand-up. Andy Kaufman was bonkers, and funny, but it was performance art. Robin Williams was an absolute force on stage, but he wasn't necessarily a stand-up, he was just Robin Williams, a singular talent.
Hedberg, and Steven Wright (who isn't on this list but should be) were great, but not Rushmore great.
Lenny Bruce was before my time, so although I'm aware of his reputation, I know almost nothing of his actual comedy.
I look at guys like Norm MacDonald, Louis CK, and even Bill Hicks as great comedians, but not Rushmore.
I think you can make an argument for Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappelle, Jerry Seinfeld and Chris Rock.
My two:
- Seinfeld: First and foremost he is just a tremendous pure stand up comedian. But beyond that he was probably the pioneer--and much pilloried for it, i.e. "what--is the deal----with that?"-- of observational humor in stand up. And if you see him live, he is just polished and tight--even today. I saw him a few years ago in Vegas and he was 100% on top of his game.
- Eddie Murphy: I wonder what he would have been if he'd spent more time on stand-up than movies, but he was one of those who modernized stand-up and made it giant. He might have been one of the first "superstar" comedians, at least on TV.
I could see putting either Chappelle or Rock over Murphy, though.
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There are a lot of really funny ones. Some of the bigger names would of course be Paula Poundstone, Sarah Silverman, Nikki Glaser, Whoopi, Roseanne, Margaret Cho, Ellen Degeneres...
I'm a big-time Kathleen Madigan fan. She's freakin' hilarious.
She's quick/clever on the roasts and pretty easy on the eyes also,Cho was pretty funny.I've seen Madigan but i have to youtube to remember who she is
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So this is a Mt Rushmore. Which means that it has to be more significant than "I think that guy's really funny". It's more about someone who was significant in the craft or importance of stand-up as an art form.
It's like guitarists. Tons of people can play guitar like Jimi Hendrix, or Eddie Van Halen, or even Jack White. It's a matter of learning and practice. But they were creating new sounds, doing new things, which make them more important than someone who learns to play what they did before.
I look at Carlin and Pryor as not only supremely funny, but they helped redefine the entire world of stand-up.
On the above list you can take out certain ones who were "performers". Steve Martin is there. He was hilarious, but he was barely a stand-up. Andy Kaufman was bonkers, and funny, but it was performance art. Robin Williams was an absolute force on stage, but he wasn't necessarily a stand-up, he was just Robin Williams, a singular talent.
Hedberg, and Steven Wright (who isn't on this list but should be) were great, but not Rushmore great.
Lenny Bruce was before my time, so although I'm aware of his reputation, I know almost nothing of his actual comedy.
I look at guys like Norm MacDonald, Louis CK, and even Bill Hicks as great comedians, but not Rushmore.
I think you can make an argument for Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappelle, Jerry Seinfeld and Chris Rock.
My two:
- Seinfeld: First and foremost he is just a tremendous pure stand up comedian. But beyond that he was probably the pioneer--and much pilloried for it, i.e. "what--is the deal----with that?"-- of observational humor in stand up. And if you see him live, he is just polished and tight--even today. I saw him a few years ago in Vegas and he was 100% on top of his game.
- Eddie Murphy: I wonder what he would have been if he'd spent more time on stand-up than movies, but he was one of those who modernized stand-up and made it giant. He might have been one of the first "superstar" comedians, at least on TV.
I could see putting either Chappelle or Rock over Murphy, though.
what is a comedian if not an entertainer who makes you laugh? why should martin, robin, and kaufman be removed from consideration because their act was an event more than a show?
martin and robin are both known more for their comedy on screen than on stage, but they were both masters of the craft of stand up and got their start doing it.
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Says the guy who posted the list.
Joan Rivers was good back in the day. She'd be the primary one I'd probably consider for inclusion on this list. Possibly Moms Mabley, but I'm basing that purely on reputation as I don't know her work.
There are a lot of really funny ones. Some of the bigger names would of course be Paula Poundstone, Sarah Silverman, Nikki Glaser, Whoopi, Roseanne, Margaret Cho, Ellen Degeneres...
I'm a big-time Kathleen Madigan fan. She's freakin' hilarious.
lucille ball, not sure if she did much standup, but she was maybe the first female that was a giant in comedy.
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what is a comedian if not an entertainer who makes you laugh? why should martin, robin, and kaufman be removed from consideration because their act was an event more than a show?
martin and robin are both known more for their comedy on screen than on stage, but they were both masters of the craft of stand up and got their start doing it.
Again, it might be an arbitrary distinction, and it's one that I'm adding... Just like I discount someone like Carrot Top for being a prop comic [and not being funny], and discount someone like Jim Carrey for being an impressionist/character guy. That's just, like, my opinion, man... :57:
I really enjoy stand-up, and consider it one of the most pure art forms that exist. I view what these other guys are doing as perhaps a sub-genre within the stand-up world. There are more than enough pure stand-ups to fill a Rushmore, so I simply didn't think we needed to go into sub-genres.
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lucille ball, not sure if she did much standup, but she was maybe the first female that was a giant in comedy.
Yeah, I did a search for female comedians and she was there, along with Carol Burnett, and quite a few others...
For me that gets into the same "Moms Mabley" territory--I've never heard their on-stage routines, so I can't really speak with any authority.
On the male side, another one would be Bob Newhart. I understand he was a hell of a comedian, but it was before my time and before "stand-up specials" were all that popular, so the only real memory I have of him was reruns of Newhart with Larry, and his brother Daryl and his other brother Daryl.
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Newhart was tight with Johnny Carson
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Again, it might be an arbitrary distinction, and it's one that I'm adding... Just like I discount someone like Carrot Top for being a prop comic [and not being funny], and discount someone like Jim Carrey for being an impressionist/character guy. That's just, like, my opinion, man... :57:
I really enjoy stand-up, and consider it one of the most pure art forms that exist. I view what these other guys are doing as perhaps a sub-genre within the stand-up world. There are more than enough pure stand-ups to fill a Rushmore, so I simply didn't think we needed to go into sub-genres.
well, your opinion is wrong. :93:
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I'm a big-time Kathleen Madigan fan. She's freakin' hilarious.
Is she the northern Minnesota accent one? I love her.
There are tons of funny women, but as many here seem not to get, the MT RUSHMORE of anything is the best of the best of the best. Guys have listed like 70 comedians on this thread.....for 4 spots. It's silly.
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Watched some of Norm MacDonalds old Week End Updates from SNL.He just hammered O.J./Bill/Hilary well done even if you can't recall all the players,circumstances and timelines
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lucille ball, not sure if she did much standup, but she was maybe the first female that was a giant in comedy.
Yes, I completely forgot about one of the funniest women in the history of comedians. Lucile Ball is a giant as far as that goes. Not sure she did much stand up, but he comedic talents were off the chart.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVlkxrNlp10
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I posted that previously pretty good,as i recall one was about another idiot that needs to be locked inside a pota potty and set on fire.Or someone that needs to be pushed out of a moving helicopter screaming
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9YL04v-J5U
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Gilda Radner deserves a mention. Bob Hope probably deserves a little more love, too. A better one-liner comedian than Rodney Dangerfield (and one-liners were Dangerfield's whole act). Billy Crystal was really funny, too.
I went with Chappelle, and Robin Williams would be next on my list (regardless of Hope or the women who are missing).
Kaufman never worked for me, but he certainly understood his act and people loved it.
Eddie Murphy was definitely good--but not Mount Rushmore good. I feel similarly about Seinfeld--he's really good at observational comedy, without relying on shock value. That's impressive, but not Mount Rushmore impressive.
Shock value is a big thing in comedy. When I was a kid, race and drugs were big topics. Nowadays sex seems to be a big, driving force.
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Eddie Murphy's Delirious was very funny, but would it have been funny without the F bombs?
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My favorite comedian is Brian Regan. I saw him him live several years ago and basically couldn’t catch my breath from laughing for about 90 minutes. And he’s 100 percent clean. Not that I seek that out because there are plenty of raunchy comedians I love, but I think it’s harder to be that funny and still be clean.
And I loved the Seinfeld show. To this day I still have a couple of friends and we’ll just randomly texts each other quotes from that show.
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Yeah, I did a search for female comedians and she was there, along with Carol Burnett, and quite a few others...
For me that gets into the same "Moms Mabley" territory--I've never heard their on-stage routines, so I can't really speak with any authority.
On the male side, another one would be Bob Newhart. I understand he was a hell of a comedian, but it was before my time and before "stand-up specials" were all that popular, so the only real memory I have of him was reruns of Newhart with Larry, and his brother Daryl and his other brother Daryl.
Newhart had a regular gag where he was talking on the phone to various people or companies but you couldn't hear the person on the other line. I know it was more skit comedy than stand-up but still quite funny.
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brian regan, jim gaffigan, and john mulaney are my current favs running. regan and gaffigan are both clean throughout, mulaney will drop some words once in a while but relatively clean.
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I don't get the cleanliness thing.
If someone is cussing in inordinate amount of times, then they're not funny. If their cussing aligns with the joke they're telling, then who cares?
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Shock value is a big thing in comedy. When I was a kid, race and drugs were big topics. Nowadays sex seems to be a big, driving force.
And that's my complaint with about 95% of female comics today - EVERYTHING is about sex and/or relationships. Diversify a little!
I like Sarah Silverman because she does branch out and hits the hush-hush topics HARD. Old fogies probably hate her for this. Hits religion HARD. Jokes about everything that makes you squeemish and doesn't rely on any single one.
If someone says she's too dry or crass, that's fine. But you gotta appreciate the breadth of topics for a modern female comic.
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I don't get the cleanliness thing.
If someone is cussing in inordinate amount of times, then they're not funny. If their cussing aligns with the joke they're telling, then who cares?
Yeah, but Eddie Murphy is on your list for Mt Rushmore and he dropped the F-bomb 223 times in a 90 minute set on Raw. That seems inordinate to me. Look, I don’t mind blue comedy but I do think a lot of comedians go too far with it and rely on the profanity too much for the laughs.
I don’t respect clean comedians out of some sense of morality or manners. I respect them because I think it’s harder to stand on a stage and make people laugh without hitting on risqué material or cussing a little bit.
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Some of those roasts were great and the comics were sharp but every other word was obscene,gender related or not. It's an insult exchange that would make Rickles blush
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And that's my complaint with about 95% of female comics today - EVERYTHING is about sex and/or relationships. Diversify a little!
I like Sarah Silverman because she does branch out and hits the hush-hush topics HARD. Old fogies probably hate her for this. Hits religion HARD. Jokes about everything that makes you squeemish and doesn't rely on any single one.
If someone says she's too dry or crass, that's fine. But you gotta appreciate the breadth of topics for a modern female comic.
Garofalo was funny back in the day. Then she just got into angry unfunny political rants.
Again, that was something about Kathleen Madigan. She wasn't all about sex and/or relationships... Barely at all, as I remember it. And she's been a mainstay--funny for decades.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM25yEO9C-Q
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Yeah, but Eddie Murphy is on your list for Mt Rushmore and he dropped the F-bomb 223 times in a 90 minute set on Raw. That seems inordinate to me. Look, I don’t mind blue comedy but I do think a lot of comedians go too far with it and rely on the profanity too much for the laughs.
I don’t respect clean comedians out of some sense of morality or manners. I respect them because I think it’s harder to stand on a stage and make people laugh without hitting on risqué material or cussing a little bit.
Eh. I'm on the fence with this whole thing...
You don't become a successful stand-up comedian simply by throwing down f-bombs on stage. If there's not serious comedic chops behind it, you can bomb just as easily with cuss words as clean.
I do agree that there's a certain extra "degree of difficulty" score that I'll give to a comedian who can work 100% clean and still nail it.
Maybe it's just that we grew up as descendants of a Puritan-influenced society and a few cuss words out there loosen people up and make them giddy. It's not going to sustain a comedy act, but it doesn't always, frankly, hurt...
As Tommy Tiernan said, "the English language is like a brick wall between me and you, and f$%k is my chisel":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow8AjUi3vWU
Some of those roasts were great and the comics were sharp but every other word was obscene,gender related or not. It's an insult exchange that would make Rickles blush
Well, that's a damn ROAST. What would you expect?
Insult comedy is a thing--just ask Lisa Lampanelli.
Roasts are basically an insult comedy festival.
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Pizza Lampanelli
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Pizza Lampanelli
Another "all my jokes are about the same thnig" queen.
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Yeah, but Eddie Murphy is on your list for Mt Rushmore
Uhh, he's on the list to be voted on because he's generally considered a great one. If I omitted him, everyone would ask why he wasn't on it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVr_l7P_uNg&t=1012s
I really enjoy her - clean, hokey, etc. Plays up her accent.
I guess I just don't see 2 groups - cussers and clean....they're either funny or not.
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This illustrates my disdain of "lists of top ten X". Everyone has an opinion of course, and no one has heard every possible candidate enough to have an opinion. Maybe the best comic is at the Marriot in Evanston, Indiana.
It's as subjective as best BBQ or best wine. Lists can be entertaining and even useful at times, but they are just lists, someone's opinion. We started out to try the "top ten restaurants in ATL, according to several lists. we dined at Numero Uno on several of the lists, and it was fine. Haven't been back, it was fine though. And not terribly expensive either.
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Yeah, but Eddie Murphy is on your list for Mt Rushmore and he dropped the F-bomb 223 times in a 90 minute set on Raw. That seems inordinate to me. Look, I don’t mind blue comedy but I do think a lot of comedians go too far with it and rely on the profanity too much for the laughs.
I don’t respect clean comedians out of some sense of morality or manners. I respect them because I think it’s harder to stand on a stage and make people laugh without hitting on risqué material or cussing a little bit.
i'll echo this.
the words don't bother me. i'm no stranger to them myself at times. and risque topics aren't necessarily off topic either. but when those are the "stars" of the show, it just isn't as funny. carlin, pryor and robin williams are all masters of story telling and fun entertainment. they all used a good bit of language, but it wasn't the point of the joke.
it's the same with movies, to me. and i don't mean a couple "damn" or something. unless it's fitting in the situation (i.e. lots of language in war movies) then i just don't enjoy it. it's a crutch that's unnecessary and detracts from the story.
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I was thinking the same watching Billionaires, where they threw in several gratuitous sex scenes that added nothing to the actual plot, and of course they can't say five works without an F bomb.
I personally have up cussing many years back.
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i'll echo this.
the words don't bother me. i'm no stranger to them myself at times. and risque topics aren't necessarily off topic either. but when those are the "stars" of the show, it just isn't as funny. carlin, pryor and robin williams are all masters of story telling and fun entertainment. they all used a good bit of language, but it wasn't the point of the joke.
Carlin's most famous bit was literally "the 7 words you can't say on TV."
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Not cussing at all makes as much sense as cussing a bunch for no reason.
Having a forbidden set of words you should never say is stupid. Words exist or they don't. If I stub my toe, "god dammit" instinctively comes out of my mouth.
Shrug.
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Not cussing at all makes as much sense as cussing a bunch for no reason.
Having a forbidden set of words you should never say is stupid. Words exist or they don't. If I stub my toe, "god dammit" instinctively comes out of my mouth.
Shrug.
Who?
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I saw a sign at a community center once that read, “The absence of profanity offends no one.”
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My favorite comedian is Brian Regan. I saw him him live several years ago and basically couldn’t catch my breath from laughing for about 90 minutes. And he’s 100 percent clean. Not that I seek that out because there are plenty of raunchy comedians I love, but I think it’s harder to be that funny and still be clean.
And I loved the Seinfeld show. To this day I still have a couple of friends and we’ll just randomly texts each other quotes from that show.
I love everything you said here. My wife and I have seen Brian Regan twice live and he was great. We truly laughed the entire show and it was that deep laugh that doesn’t come often. He’s a very underrated talent in my book and probably my #1.
my brother and I text Seinfeld quotes to each other consistently as well. Our parents are in their mid 70’s and they have truly become Mr and Mrs Seinfeld.
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best stand up I've ever seen live was Chapelle. And that is not even close. This was right after he quit his show, and he was being accused of all kinds of crazy things, but he was normal as can be, and I've never laughed so hard in my life. Bill Burr was excellent as well, saw him.
Chapelle would be my #3 after Carlin and Pryor. His show is still the greatest sketch comedy show of all-time in my opinion. He did more fall out of the chair laughing til I'm crying sketches in two seasons than SNL has done in all it's season combined. Quality over quantity, any day of the week.