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Title: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on August 29, 2021, 11:34:10 AM
Not sure what everyone's preference is? I never thought individual game threads received quite enough replies, though obviously easier to keep those sorted. In any event, I'll start a thread with the schedule, makes for a good midweek SOC at least. 

Thursday

6:30, BTN, Temple at Rutgers
8, Fox, OSU at Minnesota

Friday
9 pm, ESPN, MSU at Northwestern

Saturday
Noon, ESPN, Western Michigan at Michigan
Noon, Fox, PSU at Wisconsin
Noon, BTN, Fordham at Nebraska
3:30 ESPN, West Virginia at Maryland
3:30, BTN, Indiana at Iowa
7 pm, FS1, Oregon State at Purdue
7:30, BTN, UTSA at Illinois

Others on Saturday

3:30, ABC, Alabama at Miami U
7:30, ABC, Georgia at Clemson
8 pm, FOX, LSU at UCLA

That's a pretty danged fun Saturday, BTW, in conference and out. Very happy Wiscy and PSU are on at noon, then Iowa-Hoosiers, then everyone can tune into Clemson Georgia. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: utee94 on August 29, 2021, 11:37:15 AM
Not sure what everyone's preference is? I never thought individual game threads received quite enough replies, though obviously easier to keep those sorted. In any event, I'll start a thread with the schedule, makes for a good midweek SOC at least.

Thursday

6:30, BTN, Temple at Rutgers
8, Fox, OSU at Minnesota

Friday
9 pm, ESPN, MSU at Northwestern

Saturday
Noon, ESPN, Western Michigan at Michigan
Noon, Fox, PSU at Wisconsin
Noon, BTN, Fordham at Nebraska
3:30 ESPN, West Virginia at Maryland
3:30, BTN, Indiana at Iowa
7 pm, FS1, Oregon State at Purdue
7:30, BTN, UTSA at Illinois

Others on Saturday

3:30, ABC, Alabama at Miami U
7:30, ABC, Georgia at Clemson
8 pm, FOX, LSU at UCLA

That's a pretty danged fun Saturday, BTW, in conference and out. Very happy Wiscy and PSU are on at noon, then Iowa-Hoosiers, then everyone can tune into Clemson Georgia.


Horns play a ranked Louisiana Ragin Cajun team on Saturday as well, 3:30 Central on Fox.  
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on August 29, 2021, 11:42:05 AM
How do the Broncos stack up against the Wolverines this year? 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on August 29, 2021, 11:55:08 AM
Horns play a ranked Louisiana Ragin Cajun team on Saturday as well, 3:30 Central on Fox. 
I noticed that - really lots of sneaky good games out there this week. No lack of options. I better stock up on Oktoberfest
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on August 29, 2021, 11:57:56 AM
How do the Broncos stack up against the Wolverines this year?
The line is Michigan by around 17, which I think is too high. Western Michigan was a decent team last year (finished ahead of Michigan in the advanced stats), had a great offense and a bad defense. But they return a lot of experience. Not the type of patsy you want to face when you are trying to figure things out.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 29, 2021, 12:16:41 PM
Big recruiting weekend weekend for UW. It's tough to get long-distance kids into Madison for an 11AM kick. So, I would rather this be 2:30 or at night, for that reason only.                                                                                       
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MrNubbz on August 29, 2021, 01:10:01 PM
 I better stock up on Oktoberfest
Thanx for the heads up
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Honestbuckeye on August 29, 2021, 03:08:48 PM
Will be on a lake in the north woods.  Will have to Rely on my cell phone for score updates but you boys can clue me in when I get back as to the just of what happened and some of these games
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: longhorn320 on August 29, 2021, 03:23:01 PM
Will be on a lake in the north woods.  Will have to Rely on my cell phone for score updates but you boys can clue me in when I get back as to the just of what happened and some of these games
During football season?

Long ago I told all my friends dont get married or die during football season cause if you do I wont be there.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Honestbuckeye on August 29, 2021, 04:56:02 PM
During football season?

Long ago I told all my friends dont get married or die during football season cause if you do I wont be there.
So, expecting text updates from you is out of the  question longhorn?
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: longhorn320 on August 29, 2021, 05:00:33 PM
maybe at half time
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Honestbuckeye on August 29, 2021, 05:09:25 PM
maybe at half time
😂.  Well played sir.  
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MarqHusker on August 29, 2021, 05:15:43 PM
I had my first draft Octoberfest on Friday night.  I like the psychological act of willing an end to these 90 degree temps and usher out the summer with a few brews.  Bring on autumn. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 29, 2021, 05:33:26 PM

That's a pretty danged fun Saturday, BTW, in conference and out. Very happy Wiscy and PSU are on at noon, then Iowa-Hoosiers, then everyone can tune into Clemson Georgia.

I'm gonna be the only one watching OrSU/PU, huh?
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MrNubbz on August 29, 2021, 06:04:13 PM
Will be on a lake in the north woods.  Will have to Rely on my cell phone for score updates but you boys can clue me in when I get back as to the just of what happened and some of these games
Ontario/Quebec?N.Michigan?
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MrNubbz on August 29, 2021, 06:08:37 PM
I had my first draft Octoberfest on Friday night.  I like the psychological act of willing an end to these 90 degree temps and usher out the summer with a few brews.  Bring on autumn.
Ya wasn't too bad of a summer until the last almost 2 weeks.95 yesterday following low 90's for 3 straight then 89 & rain and the sun pops out.Now a steam bath.As long as we don't plunge right into the '50's 😎.Then it can stay 60-70 until T-Giving
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Cincydawg on August 29, 2021, 06:18:48 PM
It has been a pretty nice summer here, decent rain fall, a few days were pretty hot, most have been OK like today.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on August 29, 2021, 07:13:06 PM
I'm gonna be the only one watching OrSU/PU, huh?

Running a Train on some Beavers? :098:

Okay, okay. I'll show myself out! 

Yeesh, tough crowd... 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: CWSooner on August 29, 2021, 07:14:48 PM
Not sure what everyone's preference is? I never thought individual game threads received quite enough replies, though obviously easier to keep those sorted. In any event, I'll start a thread with the schedule, makes for a good midweek SOC at least.

Thursday

6:30, BTN, Temple at Rutgers
8, Fox, OSU at Minnesota

Friday
9 pm, ESPN, MSU at Northwestern

Saturday
Noon, ESPN, Western Michigan at Michigan
Noon, Fox, PSU at Wisconsin
Noon, BTN, Fordham at Nebraska
3:30 ESPN, West Virginia at Maryland
3:30, BTN, Indiana at Iowa
7 pm, FS1, Oregon State at Purdue
7:30, BTN, UTSA at Illinois

Others on Saturday

3:30, ABC, Alabama at Miami U
7:30, ABC, Georgia at Clemson
8 pm, FOX, LSU at UCLA

That's a pretty danged fun Saturday, BTW, in conference and out. Very happy Wiscy and PSU are on at noon, then Iowa-Hoosiers, then everyone can tune into Clemson Georgia.
OU is scheduled to play Tulane in New Orleans.  That's surely not going to happen, but whether the game location will be moved or it will be rescheduled is TBA.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: longhorn320 on August 29, 2021, 09:04:24 PM
OU is scheduled to play Tulane in New Orleans.  That's surely not going to happen, but whether the game location will be moved or it will be rescheduled is TBA.
I think it will be played as scheduled

just bring your waders
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Mdot21 on August 29, 2021, 09:23:37 PM
The line is Michigan by around 17, which I think is too high. Western Michigan was a decent team last year (finished ahead of Michigan in the advanced stats), had a great offense and a bad defense. But they return a lot of experience. Not the type of patsy you want to face when you are trying to figure things out.
honestly, would not be shocked to see Michigan barely win- or even lose. 

i have literally zero faith in Jim Harbaugh.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: GopherRock on August 30, 2021, 09:56:05 AM
I'll be at the New Brickhouse on Thursday and the Minnesota State Fair on Saturday.

My mom is showing at the Fair next Sunday, for what will most likely be her final time. The first time her and her siblings rode at the Fair was 1965.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Cincydawg on August 30, 2021, 09:59:52 AM
I looked at tickets in Charlotte for UGA-Clemmons and thought "nah".

They aren't that high, but I'd have to stay in a motel etc.  I'll watch on my nice TV and drink a nice bottle of wine.

My "nice" TV is showing its age, which is not a shock, but I'm not ready to bite on a new one yet.  It's a 65" 1 K and quite decent of course, but I do oogle those 80" OLEDs at Costco each time we enter.  And I realize they are being fed very high res images.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: BuckeyeAvenger on August 30, 2021, 11:00:20 AM
Thursday

6:30, BTN, Temple at Rutgers
8, Fox, OSU at Minnesota

Friday
9 pm, ESPN, MSU at Northwestern

Saturday
Noon, ESPN, Western Michigan at Michigan
Noon, Fox, PSU at Wisconsin
Noon, BTN, Fordham at Nebraska
3:30 ESPN, West Virginia at Maryland
3:30, BTN, Indiana at Iowa
7 pm, FS1, Oregon State at Purdue
7:30, BTN, UTSA at Illinois

Others on Saturday

3:30, ABC, Alabama at Miami U
7:30, ABC, Georgia at Clemson
8 pm, FOX, LSU at UCLA


Interesting slate of week one games: On Thursday, Rutgers opens with a win, Ohio State should be too much for Minnesota. On Friday, I don’t know what to expect from Northwestern and MSU, so it will be educational, and might be a good game. On Saturday, Michigan had better win, or Harbaugh will get the “Scott Frost Treatment”. Penn State visits Wisconsin in one of the weekend’s best games, PSU wins this historically, but Wisconsin is expecting a good season, with Penn State coming off a disappointing year. I think Nebraska beats the Fordham Rams, or else. West Virginia visits Maryland, in a battle of two teams with ACC roots. We see if last year was a fluke, or can Indiana really visit a quality Iowa team, and come away with a win? Oregon State visits Purdue. Illinois hosts UTSA, can Bert do it again?

In other games, Georgia faces Clemson in a “neutral site” contest in Charlotte, NC, that Georgia had better win, or David Pollack needs to shut his mouth, forever. Alabama should beat Miami. In an interesting contest, UCLA hosts LSU. UCLA has the benefit of a game, appears improved, and has good offensive and defensive lines. LSU is distracted by hurricane Ida, so they might be in trouble, if UCLA can get some fans in the seats.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on August 30, 2021, 12:45:33 PM
Joe Milton getting the start for the Vols
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Cincydawg on August 30, 2021, 12:47:36 PM
Did Pollack pick UGA to win easily or something?  I think they are 3-4 point dogs.

Georgia football legend David Pollack makes prediction for Clemson game (fansided.com) (https://fansided.com/2021/08/04/david-pollack-georgia-clemson-prediction/)

When looking at the Clemson football schedule for 2021, former Georgia football star David Pollack (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/david-pollack-1.html) believes the Tigers will drop their season opener to his Dawgs in Charlotte on Labor Day Weekend.

While he was not as blunt as his ESPN colleague Joey Galloway (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/joey-galloway-1.html) was about Clemson losing, he too does not believe Clemson will hit the over on its win total of 11.5 victories for the season.


Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: FearlessF on August 30, 2021, 12:56:08 PM
kiss of death for the Dawgs?
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Cincydawg on August 30, 2021, 01:04:01 PM
I'm pretty sure it has zero impact on the game.  These guys are guessing, for ratings, if they all just toed "the line" they'd be boring.  whatever they say is irrelevant.

UGA is a four point dog, that is about as solid a predictor as I can imagine from anywhere.

Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: FearlessF on August 30, 2021, 01:54:10 PM
ESPN has crazy karma
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Cincydawg on August 30, 2021, 02:03:16 PM
Maybe, I ignore them.  I did tune into Game Day this past Saturday, I wanted to see where they were set up.  After about ten minutes of partially listening, I had to leave.

Granted it was "Week Zero", but they really had zero to say worth hearing.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: BuckeyeAvenger on August 30, 2021, 08:34:37 PM

Pollack is like a trained parrot, who can only root for the SEC, and Georgia. He offers nothing in the area of football analysis, or wisdom to pass along. SEC/ESPN celebrates David Pollack’s ignorance, while they destroy the sport we love, for money.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 30, 2021, 08:41:02 PM
Pollack is like a trained parrot, who can only root for the SEC, and Georgia. He offers nothing in the area of football analysis, or wisdom to pass along. SEC/ESPN celebrates David Pollack’s ignorance, while they destroy the sport we love, for money.
Eh. I think it's more that Herbie was getting old, so ESPN needed a younger model to make the ladies swoon. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on August 30, 2021, 09:27:25 PM
Friday, I'm looking forward to UNC-VT.  I'll have to rush home because it starts at 3:00 for some reason.
Saturday, I'll start with PSU-Wisconsin.....then Bama-Miami.  Then I'll watch Florida play and UGA-Clemson during commercials.  None of the late games interest me.
And I really hope EVERYONE tunes in on Sunday to watch ND pants FSU.  
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on August 30, 2021, 09:28:55 PM
Eh. I think it's more that Herbie was getting old, so ESPN needed a younger model to make the ladies swoon.
I like the big lineman guy with the big nose.  Idk his name or where he played or anything, but he usually talks about actual football.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MrNubbz on August 30, 2021, 09:49:17 PM
Pollack is like a trained parrot, who can only root for the SEC, and Georgia. He offers nothing in the area of football analysis, or wisdom to pass along. SEC/ESPN celebrates David Pollack’s ignorance, while they destroy the sport we love, for money.
Same B.A from the old board?Anyway good post
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 31, 2021, 12:00:18 AM
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And I really hope EVERYONE tunes in on Sunday to watch ND pants FSU. 
I'm torn. All I really care about is Purdue beating Notre Dame in week 3...

But do I want them to beat an 0-2 Notre Dame that everyone laughs at? Or do I want them to beat a 2-0 Notre Dame that is top ten and [as usual] overrated?
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Cincydawg on August 31, 2021, 07:08:55 AM
Gameday COULD have some actual "experts", like some folks around here, and their ratings would quickly go into the dumpster.  The show is about ratings, and splash and flash, it's not for "serious" fans.  I'm not saying the hosts are completely clueless, but the focus is on optics and imagery.

I don't think the old "Coach" is going to make it through the season.

Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MrNubbz on August 31, 2021, 07:35:15 AM
I'm torn. All I really care about is Purdue beating Notre Dame in week 3...

But do I want them to beat an 0-2 Notre Dame that everyone laughs at? Or do I want them to beat a 2-0 Notre Dame that is top ten and [as usual] overrated?
As Dion Sanders said  - BOFF
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: FearlessF on August 31, 2021, 08:30:56 AM
I'm torn. All I really care about is Purdue beating Notre Dame in week 3...

But do I want them to beat an 0-2 Notre Dame that everyone laughs at? Or do I want them to beat a 2-0 Notre Dame that is top ten and [as usual] overrated?
both scenarios are awesome
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: utee94 on August 31, 2021, 10:25:02 AM
both scenarios are awesome
I enjoy rooting for an 0-12 Notre Dame each and every year, so I'm not torn at all.  I get why Florida fans pull against FSU, but most of the rest of the country dislikes ND a lot more than FSU.  Personally I have no feelings whatsoever about FSU, wouldn't bother actively rooting against them unless they were playing my own team.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: ELA on August 31, 2021, 10:40:22 AM
Yikes, talk about leaving the cupboard bare.  Didn't their returning starter transfer to Northwestern, only to not beat out Hunter Johnson?

https://twitter.com/BZSEC/status/1432707175466610688?s=19
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Cincydawg on August 31, 2021, 12:26:56 PM
Ouch, that is tough.  They already were a shambles anyway rivaling Tenn.

The only team I root to go 0-12 is Eastern Michigan of course.

I like the Domers to be 8-4 and lose in a minor bowl game.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: ELA on August 31, 2021, 01:17:27 PM
The only team I root to go 0-12 is Eastern Michigan of course.
We always get on frontrunners who adopt a great team as their favorite.  I like backrunning and deciding the worst team is now my most hated
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Cincydawg on August 31, 2021, 01:22:03 PM
I have come to view ALL without exception talk shows, commentary shows, draft prediction shows, any show where purported "experts" profess to let me know what's really about to happen as entertainment, not "analysis" worth taking seriously.  To me, they are akin to some "expert" on a business news channel telling me which stocks I should buy.  The scant handful I may pay a bit a attention to are usually obscure and it's more like reading "The Art of War".

These folks are entertainers, not real analysts, the "analysis" is no better and often worse than one can find casually here or on the Interwebz.  Rarely is anyone held to account, and I view the preseason mags the same way.  I recall when "CFN News" or whatever it was would post predictions and they'd always have 3-4-5 loopy ones, to garner attention and clicks.

Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 31, 2021, 01:40:29 PM
I enjoy rooting for an 0-12 Notre Dame each and every year, so I'm not torn at all.  I get why Florida fans pull against FSU, but most of the rest of the country dislikes ND a lot more than FSU.  Personally I have no feelings whatsoever about FSU, wouldn't bother actively rooting against them unless they were playing my own team.

Oh, if it was a 2-0 ND when they face Purdue I was hoping they would finish at 2-10 :57:
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on August 31, 2021, 01:45:57 PM
Amazingly E Michigan has only gone winless twice. Although they have a LOT of 1 and 2 win seasons. Very few 5+ win seasons. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: FearlessF on August 31, 2021, 02:00:18 PM
I have come to view ALL without exception talk shows, commentary shows, draft prediction shows, any show where purported "experts" profess to let me know what's really about to happen as entertainment, not "analysis" worth taking seriously.  To me, they are akin to some "expert" on a business news channel telling me which stocks I should buy.  The scant handful I may pay a bit a attention to are usually obscure and it's more like reading "The Art of War".

These folks are entertainers, not real analysts, the "analysis" is no better and often worse than one can find casually here or on the Interwebz.  Rarely is anyone held to account, and I view the preseason mags the same way.  I recall when "CFN News" or whatever it was would post predictions and they'd always have 3-4-5 loopy ones, to garner attention and clicks.


same as the "experts" that comment on climate change, COVID-19, political issues, or any topic

if a source is referred to as "expert" there is no credibility
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: ELA on August 31, 2021, 02:02:58 PM
Amazingly E Michigan has only gone winless twice. Although they have a LOT of 1 and 2 win seasons. Very few 5+ win seasons.
It's amazing Crighton has flown so under the radar there.  Actually building a steady program at Eastern Michigan is far more impressive than having the stars align for one great year at Buffalo or Kent State or Ball State.  All things that got guys Power 5 jobs.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: WhiskeyM on August 31, 2021, 02:39:39 PM
I'm gonna be the only one watching OrSU/PU, huh?

You aren't alone brother
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: BuckeyeAvenger on August 31, 2021, 04:23:11 PM
Same B.A from the old board?Anyway good post

Same guy.  Had a bunch of life events to attend to, but still excited about cfb.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: bayareabadger on August 31, 2021, 04:33:44 PM
It's amazing Crighton has flown so under the radar there.  Actually building a steady program at Eastern Michigan is far more impressive than having the stars align for one great year at Buffalo or Kent State or Ball State.  All things that got guys Power 5 jobs.
Tells us something important and interesting about how folks make hires. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: bayareabadger on August 31, 2021, 04:41:40 PM
I have come to view ALL without exception talk shows, commentary shows, draft prediction shows, any show where purported "experts" profess to let me know what's really about to happen as entertainment, not "analysis" worth taking seriously.  To me, they are akin to some "expert" on a business news channel telling me which stocks I should buy.  The scant handful I may pay a bit a attention to are usually obscure and it's more like reading "The Art of War".

These folks are entertainers, not real analysts, the "analysis" is no better and often worse than one can find casually here or on the Interwebz.  Rarely is anyone held to account, and I view the preseason mags the same way.  I recall when "CFN News" or whatever it was would post predictions and they'd always have 3-4-5 loopy ones, to garner attention and clicks.


This is mostly true.

there are some people with interesting perspectives, but you gotta find your flavor and stick with them. (And most are on tv by accident)
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 31, 2021, 04:59:51 PM
same as the "experts" that comment on climate change, COVID-19, political issues, or any topic

if a source is referred to as "expert" there is no credibility
Out of curiosity, if you don't trust experts, who then do you trust? 

(Personally, I hope it's me.)
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: utee94 on August 31, 2021, 05:12:41 PM
Out of curiosity, if you don't trust experts, who then do you trust?

(Personally, I hope it's me.)

A person should not believe in an -ism, he should believe in himself. I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me." Good point there. After all, he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. I'd still have to bum rides off people.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 31, 2021, 05:17:42 PM
Okay, Ferris...
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MrNubbz on August 31, 2021, 06:03:15 PM
Out of curiosity, if you don't trust experts, who then do you trust?

(Personally, I hope it's me.)
Bookies,Bartenders and the guys at the hardware store
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Cincydawg on August 31, 2021, 06:39:41 PM
same as the "experts" that comment on climate change, COVID-19, political issues, or any topic

if a source is referred to as "expert" there is no credibility
I guess I don't think this way except perhaps for "experts" on TV frequently,  they often are not experts really.

I've known some real experts, they were very very smart, not always right of course, but smart and usually right.  For most of us, we have to trust experts in order to live, doctors, dentists, plumbers, used car salesmen, stock brokers, et al.

The last occupation seems to be a dying breed, for me anyway, I don't get advice from my brokerage.  The guy at the reception desk is actually quite smart, he's a CFA/CFP etc. and on occasions has suggested a couple simple things for me that worked.  Dan is his name, nice fellow.

Watch on you tube a lecture by Richard Feynman, that guy was an expert.

Feynman's Lectures on Physics - The Law of Gravitation - YouTube

 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=QRE0GxT6Zbw)

Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on August 31, 2021, 07:14:19 PM
Gameday COULD have some actual "experts", like some folks around here, and their ratings would quickly go into the dumpster. 


If you put the right group of us on there, every episode would end in a brawl and ratings would be great!
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Cincydawg on August 31, 2021, 07:19:31 PM
Maybe, for a while, but a serious football show would tank.

Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on August 31, 2021, 07:51:54 PM
Yeah, I'd tune in to watch Fro get his nose smeared across his face. At least the first couple of times. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MrNubbz on August 31, 2021, 09:12:35 PM
He could join Skip Clueless,naw he doesn't deserve that,maybe Screamin A Smith
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: FearlessF on September 01, 2021, 12:00:13 AM
I guess I don't think this way except perhaps for "experts" on TV frequently,  they often are not experts really.

I've known some real experts, they were very very smart, not always right of course, but smart and usually right.  For most of us, we have to trust experts in order to live, doctors, dentists, plumbers, used car salesmen, stock brokers, et al.

The last occupation seems to be a dying breed, for me anyway, I don't get advice from my brokerage.  The guy at the reception desk is actually quite smart, he's a CFA/CFP etc. and on occasions has suggested a couple simple things for me that worked.  Dan is his name, nice fellow.

Watch on you tube a lecture by Richard Feynman, that guy was an expert.

Feynman's Lectures on Physics - The Law of Gravitation - YouTube

 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=QRE0GxT6Zbw)


I understand the "REAL" experts are something, but most sources that are labeled, "experts",  may or may not be truly experts


it seems to me they are merely "experts" such as TV folks, just a source that shows the side of the story wanted

if they don't have published credentials then they are merely called "experts" with no known knowledge of the subject 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Cincydawg on September 01, 2021, 03:34:28 PM
As I said, I don't trust "TV experts" at all, but I tend to trust the real experts.  I know they can be wrong, en masse, but they will be wrong less often than I.

I used to be an expert in a couple of extremely narrow fields in which few were interested, and I struggled to explain any of it to anyone.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 01, 2021, 03:47:52 PM
The best show was when Fox had Urban Meyer. Man, that guys knows his stuff.

Maybe Fox will get him back soon, based on the rumblings. :)
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Cincydawg on September 01, 2021, 03:50:16 PM
I like Todd Blackledge a lot, I think he points out things I would miss.

Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 01, 2021, 04:28:18 PM
He has the best gig in the world....his side focus during the game is stuffing his face.  Some guys get all the luck.

I wouldn't do well on a show with Skip Bayless, trolls make me lose interest. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Cincydawg on September 01, 2021, 06:55:36 PM
I lean to thinking baseball announcers are better overall, maybe because they have a consistent pause between "plays" to discuss what happened, alignments, etc.

I enjoy listening to Glavine when he's in the booth though  he can be repetitive.  He knows a lot about that pitching thing.  Minor league velo, HoF brain.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 01, 2021, 09:48:58 PM
And his own strike zone
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: bayareabadger on September 01, 2021, 11:09:45 PM
As I said, I don't trust "TV experts" at all, but I tend to trust the real experts.  I know they can be wrong, en masse, but they will be wrong less often than I.

I used to be an expert in a couple of extremely narrow fields in which few were interested, and I struggled to explain any of it to anyone.
So, I think this is interesting because there's a certain self-selection.

Being on TV is a skill. Most people don't have it, nor do they want to put in the work to have it. But paradoxically, if you are a dumb TV expert, it means you're still very skilled at being on TV (it's sort of like even if you have a bad sitcom, the people who made it are probably still very talented at making TV compared to most anyone).

Then you have the issue of people who go on TV, have expertise and are either unwilling or unable to get that expertise across. Like, every coach who becomes a commentator knows just a ton about the game, and a lot of players do to. But interestingly, they end up shifting toward being TV blowhards, either because it makes them feel more natural, or because it's easy or because making hot takes brings adulation or whatever. 

Guys like Urban, who go on TV, can make longer points, and can deliver something interesting, it's a rare breed. (I wonder if better producers could build more of them? Or better formats? I know someone pointed out the NBA halftime show is no good because they give six people 8 seconds to say things, which is worthless)
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 01, 2021, 11:33:54 PM
Southern Utah had to play San Jose St on Saturday, then they have to turn around and play Arizona St on Thursday. 

What nutcase came up with that schedule to kick things off? 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 02, 2021, 06:44:43 AM
Knights, Gophs, Buckeyes on deck for this evening. The air is crisp. Fellas, it feels like football. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 02, 2021, 06:46:31 AM
Forgot Rutgers gets the early kick - a solid hour and a half of the Schianos before the Buckeyes kick,
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: bayareabadger on September 02, 2021, 07:12:39 AM
Southern Utah had to play San Jose St on Saturday, then they have to turn around and play Arizona St on Thursday.

What nutcase came up with that schedule to kick things off?
Economics, man. Go where the money is. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 02, 2021, 09:44:02 AM
He has the best gig in the world....his side focus during the game is stuffing his face.  Some guys get all the luck.

I wouldn't do well on a show with Skip Bayless, trolls make me lose interest.
I'd have a beer with him before punching him out.

Then there's Rick Bayless, who I'd have 12 beers with, and then eat his food.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: FearlessF on September 02, 2021, 09:51:42 AM
there aren't many guys I wouldn't drink 12 beers with, .......... if they are buying
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 02, 2021, 09:55:21 AM
Fearless, the barfly. O0
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 02, 2021, 09:55:44 AM
I'd have a beer with him before punching him out.

Then there's Rick Bayless, who I'd have 12 beers with, and then eat his food.
Rick Bayless doesn't look to be very big, and he's not been in training like a Badger. 12 beers and you're cooking for yourself, because he's passed the eff out.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: FearlessF on September 02, 2021, 10:03:01 AM
Rick is an Okie and a Sooner

probably hang with most Badgers
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 02, 2021, 10:43:23 AM
Rutgers-Temple pushed to Saturday due to flooding. Now what will I watch at 6:30?
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 02, 2021, 11:13:17 AM
Rutgers-Temple pushed to Saturday due to flooding. Now what will I watch at 6:30?
Vanna?
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 02, 2021, 11:22:16 AM
Vanna?
Oh man that's a blast from the past. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 02, 2021, 11:25:27 AM
I thought that FB was supposed to be played in bad weather? 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 02, 2021, 11:28:13 AM
Grubhub still delivering but football players don't want to get wet?

https://twitter.com/UnequalScenes/status/1433252530713243648?s=20
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: bayareabadger on September 02, 2021, 12:07:31 PM
Grubhub still delivering but football players don't want to get wet?

https://twitter.com/UnequalScenes/status/1433252530713243648?s=20
My hot take: grub hub should not be doing that. It’s several levels of dangerous. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: FearlessF on September 02, 2021, 12:14:23 PM
man's gotta git paid
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Cincydawg on September 02, 2021, 12:17:04 PM
My guesses on major games, for fun:

Bama 41  Miami 9
Clemson 34  UGA 27
OSU 41  Minny 17
VaTech 27  UNC 24 in an upset
Wisky 27  PSU 20
Texas 27  ULL 24
LSU 24  UCLA 20
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: FearlessF on September 02, 2021, 01:01:29 PM
(https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/p526x296/240842617_4387383817965660_9200119165924639898_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=Zh1oEMV4lPAAX9X2yj8&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&oh=9af9514439021629359bc278c6a6ba07&oe=6154E641)
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 02, 2021, 01:07:35 PM
man's gotta git paid
Gotta get your General Tso's
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 02, 2021, 01:16:38 PM
I delivered pizza in college, and they would indeed make you drive in just downright scary conditions, and you'd be busy as hell because no one wanted to go anywhere. 

Nightmare fuel. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 02, 2021, 02:36:02 PM

If Illinois barfs up a game against UTSA, will it prevent Husker fans from being able to enjoy their blowout win over Fordham? 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 02, 2021, 02:47:35 PM
I delivered pizza in college, and they would indeed make you drive in just downright scary conditions, and you'd be busy as hell because no one wanted to go anywhere.

Nightmare fuel.
I delivered DURING a hurricane.......FAT tips!
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: FearlessF on September 02, 2021, 03:28:15 PM
If Illinois barfs up a game against UTSA, will it prevent Husker fans from being able to enjoy their blowout win over Fordham?
nothing could make me enjoy this win over the Rams
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 02, 2021, 06:31:09 PM
Josh Heupel has put on a few pounds, huh?
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 02, 2021, 07:07:17 PM
Hardcore Gary Andersen fans, such as Badge for example, can catch another glimpse of the man. 

He is a volunteer assistant coach at Weber St, who play the Utes tonight on the Pac 12 network. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 02, 2021, 07:16:56 PM
(https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/p526x296/240842617_4387383817965660_9200119165924639898_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=Zh1oEMV4lPAAX9X2yj8&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&oh=9af9514439021629359bc278c6a6ba07&oe=6154E641)
Week 1 game predictions are as boring as watching paint dry.
This will be a close game.  That one won't.  Close, close, blowout, close.  (all mirroring the betting lines, of course).
Picks one upset.
Blowout, close, close, blowout.
Yawn.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 02, 2021, 07:54:35 PM
Bob Stoops isn't quite Urban on the telecast
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 02, 2021, 08:09:45 PM
Buckeyes with Burke and Watts starting at corner - surprising
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MarqHusker on September 02, 2021, 08:21:44 PM
My hot take: grub hub should not be doing that. It’s several levels of dangerous.
Learn to cook Brooklyn 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 02, 2021, 08:22:58 PM
Miyan Williams - 72 yard touchdown!
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 02, 2021, 08:25:03 PM
Also - early take on Stroud - hell of lot quicker on the trigger compared to Fields. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 02, 2021, 08:39:20 PM
They're running their scripted plays.....
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: ELA on September 02, 2021, 08:42:43 PM
What are the Minnesota fans possibly booing about that call?
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 02, 2021, 08:52:23 PM
With a lesser offensive line, Stroud would've been sacked 5 times already.  
.
The Minny fans complaining about the call are the anti-vaxxers unswayed by evidence.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 02, 2021, 08:54:55 PM
Stroud definitely gets the ball out of his hands - a little inconsistent on his throws, though did a good job fielding the ball off his center's butt
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 02, 2021, 09:04:11 PM
Ugh, the ole calling timeout to screw yourself for the buckeyes
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: ELA on September 02, 2021, 09:08:52 PM
Hey, maybe a game?  Some signs of creativity from Minnesota, insomuch as not running Ibrahim into the middle of a jumbo set every play?
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 02, 2021, 09:11:46 PM
I guess OSU ran out their second string defense for that series? Weird.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Kris60 on September 02, 2021, 09:18:22 PM
INT. Minny gonna make em break a sweat.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 02, 2021, 09:25:39 PM
Not worried yet. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 02, 2021, 09:29:07 PM
Not a great possession coming out of there
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: EastAthens on September 02, 2021, 09:30:27 PM
Hey, maybe a game?  Some signs of creativity from Minnesota, insomuch as not running Ibrahim into the middle of a jumbo set every play?
Coaches who run the ball up the middle on 1st down every time should have to run stadium steps, looking at you Kirby.
 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 02, 2021, 09:37:25 PM
Not worried yet.
Now?
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 02, 2021, 09:46:25 PM
Now?

The score hasn't even changed yet. I made that post after their second TD. 

We'll see how the third quarter goes.

Apparently this is their first lead over OSU since the year 2000, which was the last time that they won. 

The last time they won at home was two stadia ago.  
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Honestbuckeye on September 02, 2021, 09:49:51 PM
As I said before the game,  inexperienced QB on the road, first hostile crowd against best RB in the BIG and a very experienced QB.  

This would have been my upset pick. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 02, 2021, 09:59:52 PM
Yes. More Miyan Williams please. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 02, 2021, 10:00:38 PM
That loosened up the secondary. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: ELA on September 02, 2021, 10:00:55 PM
Stroud bailed Olave out there.  He should have run that route a little bit deeper and made that much easier throw
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 02, 2021, 10:01:23 PM
Williams looks like a load at running back. Chop chop chop.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 02, 2021, 10:08:59 PM
Refs with some home cooking for the Gophers
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Riffraft on September 02, 2021, 10:11:56 PM
Refs with some home cooking for the Gophers
That was almost a Tom Brady Roughing the passer call.  :73:
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: WhiskeyM on September 02, 2021, 10:15:47 PM
Horrible call that just completely changed the game
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 02, 2021, 10:18:39 PM
Horrible call that just completely changed the game
I guess the season's started!!!
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Riffraft on September 02, 2021, 10:20:17 PM
Horrible call that just completely changed the game
Game has changed on that call and the Buckeyes time-out that they called on the 4th down play.  Play clock was running out on Minny
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 02, 2021, 10:26:22 PM
Refs give a possession back to the Buckeyes
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 02, 2021, 10:30:43 PM
Well that was easy
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: ELA on September 02, 2021, 10:31:24 PM
We all watching USA-El Salvador now right?
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Kris60 on September 02, 2021, 10:32:39 PM
Well that was easy
Too easy. At no point was the DB within 5 yards of the WR.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Kris60 on September 02, 2021, 10:35:50 PM
And just like that…
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 02, 2021, 10:36:15 PM
Now that's a big play from Zach Harrison, finally
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 02, 2021, 10:38:20 PM
Fleck looks like he's starting to get a little worried. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Kris60 on September 02, 2021, 10:40:11 PM
Eh, that should have been a PI on the Bucks.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 02, 2021, 10:47:32 PM
Fat guy touchdown!
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Mr. Brooks on September 02, 2021, 10:53:56 PM
2nd consecutive year, Coombs is the weal link.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 02, 2021, 10:54:43 PM
Boise is up big early @UCF. 

Winner gets a Big 12 invite 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: ELA on September 02, 2021, 11:02:35 PM
I guess that's why he's the number one running back recruit in the nation
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: GopherRock on September 02, 2021, 11:03:06 PM
... and now another big play. Bucks have busted this thing open like a rotten watermelon. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 02, 2021, 11:03:21 PM
The frosh with the big play
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Kris60 on September 02, 2021, 11:04:11 PM
Boys, that’s gonna about do it for me. 5:30 will be here in 6 1/2 hours and I don’t think Minny can get well.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: GopherRock on September 02, 2021, 11:06:46 PM
Ibrahim looks like he blew his Achilles tendon. Horrible, horrible injury. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 02, 2021, 11:11:14 PM
Ibrahim looks like he blew his Achilles tendon. Horrible, horrible injury.
Maybe...would they be letting him walk around in a boot with an Achilles injury? 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 02, 2021, 11:17:07 PM
... and now another big play. Bucks have busted this thing open like a rotten watermelon.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/BlBXE79cehTnogG5Bk1LGH_N9aqM4143Edyhh3J3LuNvNp-JhUUMMsVl7HIQzu5Y_Gzrrg4RtPf0M3WeYOrPHaGAnMFKAK5IqIcdeHhbvh9dnIoVqUvvxFtSXBMDo6yUg4Bgd2f0R8cMmHx7JAF3LWhjjGqdaORDC4s)
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 02, 2021, 11:19:53 PM
What a nifty touchdown
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 02, 2021, 11:30:12 PM
Well that was unexpected. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MarqHusker on September 02, 2021, 11:30:28 PM
I still don't understand targeting interpretations.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 02, 2021, 11:31:26 PM
Make up call from that Clemson game two years back, where their WR took like 4 steps before the ball was knocked loose, and they called it incomplete. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: ELA on September 02, 2021, 11:45:19 PM
I still don't understand targeting interpretations.
https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1433633428931547141?t=PC8B60_sKQlJmT3YWOPdYw&s=19
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 02, 2021, 11:48:11 PM
OSU did a good job, enduring a game Gopher club's best effort.  This was a useful game for them.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: ELA on September 03, 2021, 12:01:35 AM
OSU did a good job, enduring a game Gopher club's best effort.  This was a useful game for them.
They have enough pieces on offense.  Stroud will get better, Henderson will get more touches.  I'm concerned about a defense that surrenders 31 to Minnesota, playing half the game without their best offensive player.  As is college football though, it'll probably be December 31 before that matters though.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Honestbuckeye on September 03, 2021, 12:12:17 AM
I was actually pretty pleased they did better than I thought they would.

Ibrahim didn’t leave till late in the third quarter and they gave up some yards to the big tens’ best but still held Minnesota to 4.4 yards per carry while gaining 7.7 yards per carry with their own offense. That’s probably the best running back they will see all year. 

They held Minnesota to just over 200 yards passing but only 8.8 yards per pass. And remember their two starting corners, cam brown and seven Banks, did not play a single down in this game. They went with a true freshman at one corner and rotated 2 red shirt freshman at the other.

They also played six different linebackers for large portions of the game and gave them all a look. 

As far as CJ Stroud, I was quite impressed. Remember, he had not even seen a crowded stadium let alone played in a game so to go into a hostile environment and throw for 300 yards and four touchdowns, I thought was pretty impressive. He looked shaky a little bit in the second quarter but he was an assassin in the second half.  
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: TyphonInc on September 03, 2021, 12:16:09 AM
I still don't understand targeting interpretations.

Yah, that looked head to head / launching at a defenseless player to everyone who was at the pro-OSU bar I was at. (Woody's on Campusview)

It looked a h3ll of a lot more of a penalty that the Roughing the passer BS call earlier that negated a pick.

Minny played a good game. And until the non call on the targeting seemed like they had a shot. Any word on Ibriham's injury?
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Honestbuckeye on September 03, 2021, 12:20:38 AM
Yah, that looked head to head / launching at a defenseless player to everyone who was at the pro-OSU bar I was at. (Woody's on Campusview)

It looked a h3ll of a lot more of a penalty that the Roughing the passer BS call earlier that negated a pick.

Minny played a good game. And until the non call on the targeting seemed like they had a shot. Any word on Ibriham's injury?
Yes that was probably a make up call for the ghost roughing the passer call.

that was basically a 14 point swing in Minnesota’s favor. They return the interception to the 10 yard line, but instead gave Minnesota 15 yards and they scored on the next play. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 03, 2021, 12:29:35 AM
Buffalo survives a close scare against Wagner 69-7. 

Do they have a puncher's chance against the Huskers next week? 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 03, 2021, 12:43:35 AM
The roughing the passer was a textbook call. Defender clubbed the qb in the head. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 03, 2021, 12:57:49 AM
Boise is up 1 in the middle of the 4th quarter @ UCF on Espn. 

Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 03, 2021, 01:26:43 AM
UCF pulls out the W. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Hawkinole on September 03, 2021, 01:52:21 AM
I still don't understand targeting interpretations.
The review said nothing about targeting, so I don't think it was considered. Is that what you call a "Mulligan review?"
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: TyphonInc on September 03, 2021, 08:20:14 AM
The roughing the passer was a textbook call. Defender clubbed the qb in the head.

If extending your arms to try and deflect a pass is considered clubbing, then I guess maybe.

He hands start up while the QB still has the ball, and contact is made less than a step after the ball is released. In real time it's bang bang, and doesn't seem like the intent is to graze the QB helmet. (Intent was block the pass.)

We can have different opinions on the call, it was called how it was called.

But we can agree that it felt like a 14 point momentum swing, so it was a huge call. And that we can agree we have all seen later hits and more egregious hits not called.

I'm curious if the B1G can go back and look at the end of the game targeting, and hand a suspension down for the Oregon game.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 03, 2021, 08:39:31 AM
Intent, timing, and egregiousness are all irrelevant.
Location, location, location!
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 03, 2021, 08:40:23 AM
I would have to look up the rule, which is a pain, but I don't know how you can be a runner who can fumble and also be a defenseless player. Seems like it should be one or the other
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: NorthernOhioBuckeye on September 03, 2021, 09:16:17 AM
The roughing the passer was a textbook call. Defender clubbed the qb in the head.
Your definition of clubbing differs greatly from mine. A defensive player attempting to get their hands up to block a pass and then grazing the helmet of a QB is vastly different than what I would call clubbing. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: NorthernOhioBuckeye on September 03, 2021, 09:17:23 AM
I would have to look up the rule, which is a pain, but I don't know how you can be a runner who can fumble and also be a defenseless player. Seems like it should be one or the other
Yeah, this one baffled me. If a player running with the ball is defenseless, how is the defense ever supposed to make a tackle? 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: FearlessF on September 03, 2021, 11:12:11 AM
Your definition of clubbing differs greatly from mine. A defensive player attempting to get their hands up to block a pass and then grazing the helmet of a QB is vastly different than what I would call clubbing.
grazing the helmet is enough
call it what you will, any contact with the QB's helmet is the rule
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: FearlessF on September 03, 2021, 11:14:01 AM
Buffalo survives a close scare against Wagner 69-7.

Do they have a puncher's chance against the Huskers next week?
everyone has a chance against a team that self destructs 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 03, 2021, 11:22:42 AM
If extending your arms to try and deflect a pass is considered clubbing, then I guess maybe.

He hands start up while the QB still has the ball, and contact is made less than a step after the ball is released. In real time it's bang bang, and doesn't seem like the intent is to graze the QB helmet. (Intent was block the pass.)

We can have different opinions on the call, it was called how it was called.

But we can agree that it felt like a 14 point momentum swing, so it was a huge call. And that we can agree we have all seen later hits and more egregious hits not called.
Agreed that it was a HUGE call because of the swing cancelling out the turnover and then Minnesota scoring. 

And perhaps "clubbed" was an overstatement. But if you don't read a bedtime story, give a goodnight kiss, and tuck in a QB while trying to sack him, it's a penalty. Can't make contact with the QB's head. At all. 

Intent, timing, and egregiousness are all irrelevant.
Location, location, location!
grazing the helmet is enough
call it what you will, any contact with the QB's helmet is the rule
Both correct. Can't make contact with the helmet. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: NorthernOhioBuckeye on September 03, 2021, 11:32:01 AM
And perhaps "clubbed" was an overstatement. But if you don't read a bedtime story, give a goodnight kiss, and tuck in a QB while trying to sack him, it's a penalty. Can't make contact with the QB's head. At all.
Best analysis of the rule that I've seen. :)
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 03, 2021, 11:47:33 AM
At this point the QBs should be wearing skirts. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: longhorn320 on September 03, 2021, 12:05:35 PM
The one take away from last nights game to me was how reluctant the refs were to call pass interference 

several times the defender actually grabbed the receivers arm before the ball arrived and no call was made

Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: FearlessF on September 03, 2021, 12:10:02 PM
big ten refs

not great
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Benthere2 on September 03, 2021, 06:34:38 PM
Great game last night

horrible injury to Mo  and is likely out for the season

Refs did not lose the game for the gophers but it is shocking how inconsistent they are

having as much talent as OSU has at every position is a great level to be at

The gophers had to play a perfect game and get some breaks and they just didn't play perfectly.  they played well but not perfect

biggest turning point was the strip fumble recovery for the TD  that took a lot out of the guys

OSU is a very talented team and will be a tough team to beat.  QB will get better and the defense will get better  

good luck the rest of the season




Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 03, 2021, 07:11:16 PM
Unranked VA Tech is up 14-0 on #10 UNC, nearly halftime. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: FearlessF on September 03, 2021, 07:44:16 PM
so, UNC is highly ranked because they brought back "perhaps" the top NFL QB prospect and all 5 starters on the O-line

so far, the O-line and the QB aren't performing as expected
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Cincydawg on September 03, 2021, 08:07:25 PM
I picked VT to win
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 03, 2021, 08:08:49 PM
QBs don't have as much fun without all their weapons back.  
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 03, 2021, 08:28:27 PM
Oh man that poor NC back...
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 03, 2021, 08:43:01 PM
Right in the dick.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 03, 2021, 09:13:34 PM
This is a tough replay
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 03, 2021, 09:19:46 PM
Northwestern's in trouble... 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: bayareabadger on September 03, 2021, 09:19:51 PM
Was listening to a preview and they mentioned the five linemen "back." I feel like "back" is always overrated to a degree. 

That said, Howell is pretty good, but he didn't play that way. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 03, 2021, 09:34:48 PM
Northwestern is REALLY in trouble. 

Ole Whatshisnuts really has Fitzgerald's number. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: ELA on September 03, 2021, 09:56:04 PM
I'm pretty sure we didn't have a RB score a rushing TD last year.  Kenneth Walker has 2 already
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: ELA on September 03, 2021, 10:00:07 PM
I'm pretty sure we didn't have a RB score a rushing TD last year.  Kenneth Walker has 2 already
11 games since a RB scored a rushing TD.  Got 3 from QBs in the meantime but have to go back to game 9 of 2019, when Eli Collins had two in the first half against Illinois
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: ELA on September 03, 2021, 10:07:12 PM
The fact that Northwestern doesn't have permanent lights is an embarrassment.  One of their reporters this week said they are the only P5 school without them.  The lighting is awful.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: utee94 on September 03, 2021, 10:09:05 PM
Great game last night

horrible injury to Mo  and is likely out for the season

Refs did not lose the game for the gophers but it is shocking how inconsistent they are

having as much talent as OSU has at every position is a great level to be at

The gophers had to play a perfect game and get some breaks and they just didn't play perfectly.  they played well but not perfect

biggest turning point was the strip fumble recovery for the TD  that took a lot out of the guys

OSU is a very talented team and will be a tough team to beat.  QB will get better and the defense will get better 

good luck the rest of the season






Yes, agree across the board.  I know some tOSU fans are salty about the fairly soft roughing call, and I get it, but I feel like that call gets made 80% of the time these days, whether it should be or not.

And the Buckeyes also benefitted from some bad calls that went against the Gophs, one pretty egregious DPI went uncalled, I think it was a deep pass down the sideline that would have built momentum for the boat-rowers. 

But overall the Buckeyes are just so talented, so deep, and it showed through over the course of the game. They're really fun to watch, and in an alternate reality where Saban's Alabama doesn't exist, I feel like we'd be talking about the current Buckeyes in similar tones.

It was a super-entertaining game, i enjoyed it a lot. 

Also when I saw the injury to the Minnesota RB, I felt like it was really bad.  Sure hope he has a full recovery as soon as is possible.  That's a gut punch.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: EastAthens on September 03, 2021, 10:13:16 PM
ELA. do you like Tucker?  When Kirby was hired, Tucker was his 1st, last and only choice for DC and I trust Kirby's football judgement.  I am interested in seeing how Tucker does if he is allowed time.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: TyphonInc on September 03, 2021, 10:15:26 PM
#FIREKEVINWARREN
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: FearlessF on September 03, 2021, 10:17:27 PM
I'm old enough to remember when Nebraska didn't have permanent lights

the 80s

In the early 1980s, portable lighting was occasionally used to allow Memorial Stadium to host late afternoon games on national television, often against Oklahoma. The first official night game at Memorial Stadium took place on September 6, 1986, when Nebraska defeated Florida State 34–17. Permanent lighting was installed in 1999, which was replaced with an LED lighting system in 2018.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MaximumSam on September 03, 2021, 10:21:21 PM
ELA currently running around his neighborhood naked and challenging cops to fist fights
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: ELA on September 03, 2021, 10:31:03 PM
ELA currently running around his neighborhood naked and challenging cops to fist fights
I'm using my fists, the cowards can arm themselves if they want
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: ELA on September 03, 2021, 10:33:58 PM
ELA. do you like Tucker?  When Kirby was hired, Tucker was his 1st, last and only choice for DC and I trust Kirby's football judgement.  I am interested in seeing how Tucker does if he is allowed time.
Jury is out.  I think he's saying the right things.  I'm just not sure you are ever going to outtalent the top at MSU, and that seems to be his plan.  The flip side to that criticism is you have a low ceiling.  Your best case scenario is to upset OSU and get throttled by Bama in a CFP.  He has clearly already upgraded the roster from what Dantonio let it become in his last couple years.  But can he coach it?  Well see
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: utee94 on September 03, 2021, 10:35:34 PM
Actual photo of AAA, taken 3 minutes ago:

(https://i.imgur.com/1AAsEeT.png)
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: ELA on September 03, 2021, 10:41:06 PM
I'm old enough to remember when Nebraska didn't have permanent lights

the 80s

In the early 1980s, portable lighting was occasionally used to allow Memorial Stadium to host late afternoon games on national television, often against Oklahoma. The first official night game at Memorial Stadium took place on September 6, 1986, when Nebraska defeated Florida State 34–17. Permanent lighting was installed in 1999, which was replaced with an LED lighting system in 2018.
I don't think Michigan had permanent lights until the 1998 renovations.  The cranes they used to bring in for 3:30 games all the way through the 90s used to block half the concourse.

Then you'd get the dreary November noon game where they didn't even have the option.  I remember a game against Boston College in the rain where you could not see the other side of the field
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: ELA on September 03, 2021, 10:43:08 PM
16 plays, 62 yards, 7 minutes.

Big Ten football is back
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MrNubbz on September 03, 2021, 10:44:29 PM
ELA currently running around his neighborhood naked and challenging cops to fist fights
You have any affiliates in the Pittsburgh area ?
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MarqHusker on September 03, 2021, 10:52:44 PM
Love seeing 60yd fga.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: ELA on September 03, 2021, 11:13:18 PM
Both defenses probably thinking if they limit big plays they could take this game over
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: ELA on September 03, 2021, 11:16:00 PM
Both defenses probably thinking if they limit big plays they could take this game over

And apparently easier said than done.  I believe that is Northwesterns third 40+ yard gain?
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: utee94 on September 03, 2021, 11:19:25 PM
I will comment-- if I didn't see the school names in the on-screen score box, I'd have no idea who was playing.  

Michigan State's uniforms are just bland and confusing, but I actively loathe Northwestern's.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: ELA on September 03, 2021, 11:24:16 PM
Northwestern doesn't have the talent to afford having a bad kicker
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: ELA on September 03, 2021, 11:25:47 PM
I will comment-- if I didn't see the school names in the on-screen score box, I'd have no idea who was playing. 

Michigan State's uniforms are just bland and confusing, but I actively loathe Northwestern's.
MSUs are simply a take on their classic basketball unis with the script State.  Of all possible alternates, if we have to do it, these (maybe gruff Sparty) are my favorites.  White pants would have been better.  The green pants on the road always look blah.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: ELA on September 03, 2021, 11:34:00 PM
Huge swing.  Northwestern has a 1st and goal to make it a one score game.  Instead nothing, then they miss a short FG, and MSU goes 80 yards to put it back up to 21.

Walker was a hell of a get in the transfer portal.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 04, 2021, 12:19:12 AM
I like Northwestern's "gothic" unis. 

Sparty has a script decal, which I never liked. Only girls write cursive that looks that perfect. 
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: MarqHusker on September 04, 2021, 12:22:57 AM
NW unis have a WLAF look to them.   Don't like em one bit.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: ELA on September 04, 2021, 07:54:41 AM
I don't hate the Gothic but gold isn't one of their colors the same as when Michigan State had those bronze uniforms a decade ago
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: Cincydawg on September 04, 2021, 08:37:33 AM
The atmosphere at VT last night appeared to be lively, I have heard they are noisy there despite a relatively modestly sized venue.  I understand Iowa is the same.

I had a notion UNC would lay an egg first time out, they did not look very "collected" and their vaunted OL had holes.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: FearlessF on September 04, 2021, 08:55:34 AM
And apparently easier said than done.  I believe that is Northwesterns third 40+ yard gain?
Northwestern's offense is in mid-season form
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: FearlessF on September 04, 2021, 08:59:18 AM
The atmosphere at VT last night appeared to be lively, I have heard they are noisy there despite a relatively modestly sized venue.  I understand Iowa is the same.

I had a notion UNC would lay an egg first time out, they did not look very "collected" and their vaunted OL had holes.
Kinnick stadium in Iowa City holds 70,000 - it's loud but not THAT loud.  Hawkeye fans exaggerate some
Poor Mack and poor ACC

at least Mack looks like he's been eating well
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: utee94 on September 04, 2021, 10:17:22 AM
Kinnick stadium in Iowa City holds 70,000 - it's loud but not THAT loud.  Hawkeye fans exaggerate some
Poor Mack and poor ACC

at least Mack looks like he's been eating well
I didn't even recognize him.  Seriously.  
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: TyphonInc on September 04, 2021, 12:40:58 PM
The atmosphere at VT last night appeared to be lively, I have heard they are noisy there despite a relatively modestly sized venue.  I understand Iowa is the same.

I had a notion UNC would lay an egg first time out, they did not look very "collected" and their vaunted OL had holes.

I did the OSU VT game in 2015. It's super loud at Lane Stadium (66K). Like Ohio Stadium, Beaver Stadium, Camp Randell type loud. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7vb0HU9BJc 

I have also done an OSU game at Kinnick Stadium 2000 (70K.) I sat in the Iowa student section and it was crazy, but ... it was no wear near as loud as Lane Stadium. (Granted a good OSU team put a pretty good hurt on a bad Iowa team.)
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 04, 2021, 05:05:17 PM
I will comment-- if I didn't see the school names in the on-screen score box, I'd have no idea who was playing. 

Same with UNC-VT.......white/dark blue white helmets vs full orange and white helmets.  
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: GopherRock on September 07, 2021, 10:07:03 AM
I don't think Michigan had permanent lights until the 1998 renovations.  The cranes they used to bring in for 3:30 games all the way through the 90s used to block half the concourse.

Michigan didn't have permanent lights until the 2009 renovations. The temp lights in 2008 were put up in the steel framework for the new suites on the sides. Most placed in the league didn't have permanent lights until 2015 or sooner.

Musco Lighting made a killing renting their trucks out for the 2:30 November games.
Title: Re: Week #1
Post by: FearlessF on September 07, 2021, 12:07:51 PM
hopefully the TV networks were paying that bill