theres a part of me that wants OU to win and go on to be National ChampsThat part of you needs to be exorcised.
That part of you needs to be exorcised.I hear ya but if UT isnt a part of it I normally root for the Big12
I hear ya but if UT isnt a part of it I normally root for the Big12I guess that's loyalty but I'm not really even sure how that plays out for Texas.
If the Sooners win and go to the playoffs, TCU goes to a New Years 6 bowl and the other Big 12 teams, including Texas, move up a notch in the bowls. It also means substantially more money for the conference.Does it mean Texas' schedule starts to look more appetizing in upcoming years? Do Arkansas and Nebraska join the conference?
... in the year it can hurt but probably not help the B12 winner get to the playoffs.I tell ya what I'm reasonably confident about, Fred. Mike Stoops will thoroughly prepare for a game-plan that TCU has no intention of throwing out there.
But regardless we’ve got it and it’s a good matchup ... hard to beat a good team like TCU twice. Usually games between these two teams are close and the Froggies occasionally pull the upset:
http://www.soonerstats.com/football/opponents/details.cfm?oppid=68#.WhwLH2JOmEc (http://www.soonerstats.com/football/opponents/details.cfm?oppid=68#.WhwLH2JOmEc)
Patterson is a truly great coach with huge success from such a relatively small university. What will he and his coaches conjure up to jam a stick in the spokes of the highest yardage offense in OU’s long and storied history?
Will the Frogs pull out some of their own offensive tricks to exploit the sometimes porous OU defense?
Who knows what nefarious schemes lurk in the minds of Horned Frog Nation?
I tell ya what I'm reasonably confident about, Fred. Mike Stoops will thoroughly prepare for a game-plan that TCU has no intention of throwing out there.:sign0151:
I like BroCo's prediction but OU has held only UTEP, Tulane, and Kansas to 14 or under. Shoot, even texsa scored 24 on them.Kenny Hill is just not as convincing to me lately. If he catches fire, OU will have its hands full. But he's been pretty quiet the past several games.
I still think the XII had every intent to add 2 more schools when they voted in the CCG.I still think the networks played a roll in our failure to add teams
They should have just gone ahead and added BYU and Colorado St. Texas bungled it up by insisting on Houston, and the LGBXYZ decided to get sideways with BYU so it was all shot out of the saddle. Plus I think some suspected that Nebbie might place a return call.
Once we were reduced to considering Cincinnati and Houston, then pffftt.
I still think the networks played a roll in our failure to add teamsI'm glad they did, given that we were down to Cincy and Houston.
TCU always plays OU tough, long before they were in the same conf together. I have a healthy respect for the Frogs and for Patterson.38-20 (and it wasn't that close) says your assertion is false.
I’m just hoping we come out the other end with more points. OU 28 Frogs 27 (or OU 14 Frogs 13 or whatever) would be fine with me.
Boomer!
I'm sure he hasn't told his players that personal fouls are OK as long as they take Mayfield out of the gameAw, come on - really?...
38-20 (and it wasn't that close) says your assertion is false.Have you looked at the record between OU and TCU? The MOV is usually single digits. The alltime PF-PA is 23-19 in favor of Oklahoma. Since 2012, the MOV (i.e. =OU-TCU) has been
I'm glad they did, given that we were down to Cincy and Houston.Huh, what's this? I must be hallucinating. I actually agree with BC on sumthin :017:
Aw, come on - really?...You're saying that he HAS told his players to take Mayfield out?
Patterson has been the one coach who has consistently handled Big 12 offenses. I don't know why other teams haven't been able to replicate that. He doesn't get the top recruits but he always has studs in his defense,Yep, he's pretty savvy in general. Gets more out of his players than the vast majority of coaches out there in college football, that's for sure, and it pays off. TCU is a consistently strong program. They have a 75% winning pct in Patterson's 17 years there, with lots of 10+ win seasons. Impressive stuff. One of those little schools that could.
Btw, speaking of TCU, did DF ever make it over here? I always enjoyed his no-nonsense posts.Yes, he did, Fred. I've seen some of his posts on the B1G board. The "coaching changes" thread.
SOONER!I think that teams #5 through #11 in the CFP rankings, plus the top G5 team, get the New Year's bowls. I don't think TCU will maintain its #11 ranking.
What an awesome win! First time any team has won 3 consecutive B12 titles. Lincoln keeps the line moving.
I would think TCU gets the B12's NY6 bowl. I can't see them putting OSU ahead of them since TCU won the head to head.
Not surprised at all by the outcome. Good job Sooners, I'll probably root for y'all in the playoffs.Thanks DF. Frogs are always a tough draw but OU is running on all cylinders at the moment.
Good to see you, D-Frog.Graham could have already bolted ASU after the '13 or '14 seasons if he wanted to. He was on his way to coaching his 7th season here for crying out loud. Despite his reputation as a job hopper he genuinely wanted to stay at ASU. His wife absolutely loves it here as does the rest of his family. He treated the university like a place he wanted to stay, unfortunately he didn't do enough per our AD's standards.
I know you hated to see Todd Graham fired, but I think you avoided feeling betrayed when he inevitably would have ducked out to his next "destination job."
Don't know that Herm Edwards is the right replacement, though.
I think that teams #5 through #11 in the CFP rankings, plus the top G5 team, get the New Year's bowls. I don't think TCU will maintain its #11 ranking.I was thinking the B12 had a tie-in but you've always had the handle on bowl games.
But I hope they do.
I was thinking the B12 had a tie-in but you've always had the handle on bowl games.I at least partially misspoke there, CG. The Big 12 and SEC signed an agreement awhile back (2014-ish?) that their champions would meet in the Sugar Bowl. Or their highest-ranked teams if the champions are in the CFP. But that's only in years when the Sugar Bowl isn't being used for a semifinal or the championship game in the CFP. It's like the Big Ten-Pac-12 relationship with the Rose Bowl.
Same here, CG.I agree. I just think it is time for a fresh perspective on the D side. Also, schools can add a 10th coach next year, it will be interesting to see what position OU use that on.
I'd still rather see Mike move on--maybe to go work for little brother Mark at Kentucky--but the Sooner defense really came through yesterday, especially in the 2nd half.
And even on those two 1st-half TD passes, the TCU players were well-covered. Kenny Hill threw two perfect passes, and the Frog WRs made two perfect catches.
That is what I was thinking of, the Champions Bowl. From the Big 12 site:Hmmm. I'm scratching my head too.
2016 Big 12 Bowl Selection Process
College Football Playoff (CFP) Selection Process
The CFP Selection Committee ranks the top 25 teams and selects the four teams to participate in the semifinal games. Then, after the contract bowls are filled based on conference agreements, the Committee will assign teams to fill the remaining New Year's bowls. Each conference champion from the contract bowls (ACC, Big 12, Big Ten, SEC & Pac 12) has a guaranteed spot in its contracted bowl or in another New Year's bowl (Sugar, Rose or Cotton) if the contracted bowl is a semifinal game and the conference champion is not selected to participate in a semifinal game. The highest ranked champion from the Mountain West, American, Conference USA, Sun Belt or MAC is guaranteed a spot in a CFP bowl and the remaining spots are filled based on the rankings of teams after the contract bowls have been filled.
So this means? :confuse:
Brent Venables???Maybe he has and said no. Doesn't want to coach in the middle of a dumpster fire.
why has he not been approached by Tennessee?
thanks, I appreciate the good wishesI think the answer to that question is complicated.
would Riley and the Sooners open up the bank to bring Brent back as the D-coordinator?
congratulations sooners"Let's"?
lets get 2 more
"Let's"?I really dont care about who roots for who
That's some orange blood you got there.
You show me a sooner fan that won't be pulling for Mizzou and I'll pay to upholster your recliner.
I was a Horn before your daddy knew your mommaKey word above = "was"
I won't be pulling for Mizzou. They left the conference. F em.Oh sure I get it. Who cares if pitiful Texas eeks out its 7th win. Pffft. Child's play for OU.
I was pulling for Mizzou because Josh Heuple was OC.Did that guy go on a steady diet of cherry pie since playing football?
Oh sure I get it. Who cares if pitiful Texas eeks out its 7th win. Pffft. Child's play for OU.As old timers here will remember, I cheered for Texas in the 2005 and 2009 MNC games. Crazy but true. It’s a conference thing. So yeah I can tell you that.
Now if we were in the national championship hunt, you can't tell me things wouldn't be different.
As old timers here will remember, I cheered for Texas in the 2005 and 2009 MNC games. Crazy but true. It’s a conference thing. So yeah I can tell you that.Well, I will confess that I cheered for the conference too, back when it was worth cheering for. This conference is now 8 schools with no other options, 1 school that wants a TV channel, and 1 school that still thinks Longhorn affiliation is beneficial to recruiting Texas.
As old timers here will remember, I cheered for Texas in the 2005 and 2009 MNC games. Crazy but true. It’s a conference thing. So yeah I can tell you that.I remember Fred
It’s kind of like Nebraska historically. We were in the same conf so I cheered for them in bowl games. Texas is the new Nebraska. <shrug>
Texas is the new Nebraska. <shrug>gee, that's gotta smell like Bevo's backside
I know a lot of guys (and gals) who will tout the strength of the SEC....because it makes their team look good, they think.Most SEC teams proclaim greatness by association. A few don't need to do this.
Has anyone noticed that every time CH posts the atmosphere gets warmer and warmerCH <> BC or T95.
CH <> BC or T95.yep I hope CH can forgive me for my oversight
CH = HH or (I forgot the earlier one)
Cow farts cause global warming, not internet posting.Dammit I traded in the wife's Yukon for no reason. But don't tell her cuz I want to keep the cows.
I determine who to root for based on how it affects the Sooners. In general terms that means I normally root for other Big 12 teams.Given that the Sooners are on top, yes.
I used to try to do that for the same reasons. If our opponents did well, our sos got better and helped us out. In recent years I've come to realize it really doesn't matter. If LSU takes care of business and wins the conference, then unless they're a 2001 scenario, they're going to be in the playoffs and will be plenty high profile enough to keep recruiting well. It doesn't really matter if our schedule is awesome or if it's crap. As things currently are in the cfb landscape, the SEC champ is in on hype alone, barring some strange 2001-esque scenario.I determine who to root for based on how it affects the Sooners. In general terms that means I normally root for other Big 12 teams.
I always root for the AL in the All Star game and the World SeriesI root for the AL because I like the DH rule. It enters another hitter into the line-up making the game more interesting.
Don Drysdale was the best hitting pitcher I ever sawBob Gibson had a better lifetime BA and a better SLG, and he played two years longer than DD.
Bob Gibson had a better lifetime BA and a better SLG, and he played two years longer than DD.Not saying he was the best fred just the best one I ever saw
Not saying he was the best fred just the best one I ever sawFair enough. Drysale was no doubt impressive all around.
They implemented the DH to draw in the casual fan who mainly likes hitting and doesn’t care as much about pitching and fielding. You know the kind of fan who walks away from a tense 2-1 pitchers duel and says the game was boring because nothing happened. Would rather see a home run derby, I guess.Your production at the plate determines how far you make it in baseball. Unless you're a pitcher. MLB doesn't hire shortstops because they field a mean ground ball. They field a mean ground ball AND they can produce at the plate.
They implemented the DH to draw in the casual fan who mainly likes hitting and doesn’t care as much about pitching and fielding.I'm still burning over this. The "pitching and fielding" is not impressive when you send pitchers up to the plate. Who cares that some ace pitcher went 1-2-3 and sat down a helpless pitcher. Who cares if the 1st baseman ran up to grab a dribbler off the bat and then tagged the pitcher who run the 40 in 3 minutes.
Yep it’s more exciting for me at least than just marching an often fat over the hill pure hitter who sometimes can barely run the bases up there.As opposed to a speed-burning pitcher who can tear it up on the base line.
I'm still burning over this. The "pitching and fielding" is not impressive when you send pitchers up to the plate. Who cares that some ace pitcher went 1-2-3 and sat down a helpless pitcher. Who cares if the 1st baseman ran up to grab a dribbler off the bat and then tagged the pitcher who run the 40 in 3 minutes.Relax - it's just a conversation, and is often the case, we don't agree. Oh well.
That's not baseball. It's not being a "pitching and fielding" enthusiast by sending a handicapped batter to the plate.
Your production at the plate determines how far you make it in baseball. Unless you're a pitcher. MLB doesn't hire shortstops because they field a mean ground ball.they did hire shortstops for their glove and arm back in Gibson's day
they did hire shortstops for their glove and arm back in Gibson's dayTrue, like SS Dal Maxvill ... a .217 lifetime BA (just .011 higher than Gibson's lifetime BA) but yet he has three NL championship rings, and two WS rings, to show for it.
Luis - in the hall of fame with a .262 avg and .313 OBPFox also in the Hall of Fame with a .288 avg
I've always watched, enjoyed, and respected both leaguesOnce the Mick retired, the AL was dead to me.
the All-Star game should not determine anythingthats why I dont watch it
I also dont like the fact that the winner of the All Star game no longer determines home field advantageI didn't even know they changed this.
The game is fine. It’ll kept being played roughly the same long after all of us are pushing up daisies, and will continue to be one of the main sports not only have the US but also several countries of northern Latin America and of east Asia.Well with all the things they could have changed, they bring in instant replay - probably the worse option.
Well with all the things they could have changed, they bring in instant replay - probably the worse option.It drags football and basketball too. I could go either way on it - human error was always part of the game.
That's right, let's stop the already standstill baseball game and watch instant replay for 5 minutes. Brilliant.
The thing about instant replay is that it is used to overturn a ruling on the field.they should limit the number of reviews to 2 for each side unless a call is reversed which would not count towards that limit
What's the terminology? "Conclusive evidence" or something? I forget the exact wording.
But let's go back to football for a second. The problem with "conclusive" evidence is that there is no time limit in which to seek it out. If you can't overturn a call within 2 minutes of review, then forget it!! Move on. It's not "conclusive" enough.
What am I missing?