UW is very young too.Based on 247's method, Big Ten teams ranked oldest to youngest...
Wisconsin could have swapped this roadtrip with the Husker game on November 16thGuess Big Red turned yellow
two thoughts pop into my mind.It was the southernmost university in the Florida state system at the time it was founded. FAU and FIU were founded within a decade, and FGCU in the 90s.
2) Why is USF called University of South Florida? Shouldn't it be called University of West Florida? Or maybe Univeristy of Tampa? It's not in South Florida.
It was the southernmost university in the Florida state system at the time it was founded. FAU and FIU were founded within a decade, and FGCU in the 90s.I don't even consider the panhandle to be part of Florida. It's Alabama to me. We need to draw a north/south line straight through Tallahassee and everything West of that line- give it to Alabama. Then move the state capitol to Orlando and let's be done with it.
West Florida is way out in the panhandle.
Made sense for that name then. Now? It makes little sense. Might as well just rename it to University of Tampa.But they have so much rich tradition who wants to screw with that
| #19 Wisconsin Badgers at South Florida Bulls |
| Friday @ 7:00 - Tampa, FL - ESPN |
| No team may be more ready to get 2019 going than South Florida. The Bulls burst out early in 2018, getting off to a 7-0 start, with a pair of Power 5 wins, and a #21 national ranking, and a 3:30 ABC nationally televised game against Houston. The Cougars lit them up for 57 points, kicking off a 6 game losing streak that saw Charlie Strong's defense shredded for 35 or more points in five of those games. The Bulls featured the AAC's best defense in 2017, and they better get back close to that level in 2019, or Wisconsin's passing game concerns may not matter. South Florida surrendered 5.1 ypc a year ago, worst in the AAC*. The asterisk is because UConn's 2018 defense was so historically bad, that no other AAC team could possibly be the worst in any metric, so we've removed them from any rankings. The back seven is still ok, but the defensive line struggled mightily. The signs are that South Florida will move from a base 4-2-5, to a more traditional 4-3, and move Greg Reaves back to defensive end. The hope is that he can provide the group with a boost to their pass rushing, but the run defense still seems problematic. Wisconsin couldn't too much abandon being Wisconsin. The Badgers brought in probably their most prized quarterback recruit ever (if you don't count Russell Wilson as a grad transfer), fresh off a dazzling performance in the All-American Bowl. The type of elite passer that Wisconsin doesn't get, and doesn't rely upon. So to protect their brand, they named Jack Coan as starter. The same Jack Coan who played in 5 games last year and had a Total QBR that would have been 3rd worst in the Big Ten, had he had enough attempts to qualify. As I said earlier, it probably doesn't matter who gets the start in the opener, South Florida has a solid secondary, and zero run defense (Marshall ran for nearly 300 yards against them in the Gasparilla Bowl), but this feels like a missed opportunity to get Mertz a shot against a solid secondary, in a road environment, before you absolutely need him. They have Michigan at home in two weeks, and I simply don't think you can beat Michigan with Jack Coan under center. And I don't think Mertz went to Madison to sit behind him. |
| WISCONSIN 30, SOUTH FLORIDA 24 |
I don't even consider the panhandle to be part of Florida. It's Alabama to me. We need to draw a north/south line straight through Tallahassee and everything West of that line- give it to Alabama. Then move the state capitol to Orlando and let's be done with it.
On a serious note, I had no idea. Made sense for that name then. Now? It makes little sense. Might as well just rename it to University of Tampa.
USF would make perfect sense if the proposed state of South Florida was ever to be realized.Except then it would be just about the northernmost county in South Florida. I guess it could be the flagship for the new South Florida system, with Central Florida changing its name to North South Florida
I don't even consider the panhandle to be part of Florida. It's Alabama to me. We need to draw a north/south line straight through Tallahassee and everything West of that line- give it to Alabama. Then move the state capitol to Orlando and let's be done with it.
On a serious note, I had no idea. Made sense for that name then. Now? It makes little sense. Might as well just rename it to University of Tampa.
Except then it would be just about the northernmost county in South Florida. I guess it could be the flagship for the new South Florida system, with Central Florida changing its name to North South FloridaTrue.
True.Well, to some extent you may see pushback from the University of Florida, so as not to dilute their name.
As it is though, the best way to handle it would be have USF, UCF, FGCU, etc. all be absorbed by the University of Florida system and simply be UF-Orlando, UF-Tampa, etc. They can be colloquially be called by their city names.
I don't think any QB goes anywhere to sit behind someone else. Mertz isn't going anywhere. He loves Madison, he loves his coaches, he loves his teammates and they all love him.
#19 Wisconsin Badgers at South Florida Bulls Friday @ 7:00 - Tampa, FL - ESPN No team may be more ready to get 2019 going than South Florida. The Bulls burst out early in 2018, getting off to a 7-0 start, with a pair of Power 5 wins, and a #21 national ranking, and a 3:30 ABC nationally televised game against Houston. The Cougars lit them up for 57 points, kicking off a 6 game losing streak that saw Charlie Strong's defense shredded for 35 or more points in five of those games. The Bulls featured the AAC's best defense in 2017, and they better get back close to that level in 2019, or Wisconsin's passing game concerns may not matter. South Florida surrendered 5.1 ypc a year ago, worst in the AAC*. The asterisk is because UConn's 2018 defense was so historically bad, that no other AAC team could possibly be the worst in any metric, so we've removed them from any rankings. The back seven is still ok, but the defensive line struggled mightily. The signs are that South Florida will move from a base 4-2-5, to a more traditional 4-3, and move Greg Reaves back to defensive end. The hope is that he can provide the group with a boost to their pass rushing, but the run defense still seems problematic. Wisconsin couldn't too much abandon being Wisconsin. The Badgers brought in probably their most prized quarterback recruit ever (if you don't count Russell Wilson as a grad transfer), fresh off a dazzling performance in the All-American Bowl. The type of elite passer that Wisconsin doesn't get, and doesn't rely upon. So to protect their brand, they named Jack Coan as starter. The same Jack Coan who played in 5 games last year and had a Total QBR that would have been 3rd worst in the Big Ten, had he had enough attempts to qualify. As I said earlier, it probably doesn't matter who gets the start in the opener, South Florida has a solid secondary, and zero run defense (Marshall ran for nearly 300 yards against them in the Gasparilla Bowl), but this feels like a missed opportunity to get Mertz a shot against a solid secondary, in a road environment, before you absolutely need him. They have Michigan at home in two weeks, and I simply don't think you can beat Michigan with Jack Coan under center. And I don't think Mertz went to Madison to sit behind him. WISCONSIN 30, SOUTH FLORIDA 24
USF will change when Michigan changes the lyrics to Hail to the Victors.EFF USF. Michigan ain't changing sheeeet.
USF will change when Michigan changes the lyrics to Hail to the Victors.This joke will no doubt work better when Michigan drops from being #1 in all-time wins and all-time win%. Even dropping from #1 in all-time Big Ten championships would help.
That's pre-statehood.(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/West_Florida_Map_1767.jpg)
It used to be a separate State.
#2004The ancient history has to matter just the same as the modern. Because teams like Michigan and Texas wouldn't have any modern advantages if it didn't.
This seems to be the only appointment viewing Big Ten game this weekend. Shame it's a Friday.Disagree. This should be a rout. Vegas says roughly Wisconsin -12.5 or so, but I think the game will never be in doubt regardless of the final MOV.
when Michigan drops from being #1 in all-time wins and all-time win%.Even dropping from #1 in all-time Big Ten championships would help.The Speech,The Speech I knew if I was patient I'd hear it again
Minnesota has the 3rd-most Big Ten championships.Unfortunately for Minnesota, the national helmet schools didn't durably cement themselves until ~1970. Since then no one has entered or left the club. Just like early planets that formed only to be gravitationally flung from the solar system or fall into Jupiter or the sun, Minnesota didn't last long enough for its ancient wins to count as equal to its recent ones.
While I agree this is the game to watch, I'm not sure a lackluster performance by the Cats will have any bearing on their chances to repeat as West Champs
Line-wise, Northwestern @ Stanford is the closest game on the B1G docket at only +6.5. And it's the only one the B1G is an underdog. If we want to understand whether Northwestern is a threat to repeat as B1G West champions, this is must-watch.
While I agree this is the game to watch, I'm not sure a lackluster performance by the Cats will have any bearing on their chances to repeat as West ChampsYes, and barely beating Purdue. Northwestern did NOT start the season well.
you do remember Duke and Akron last season
And I certainly hope they shed it with a masterful game vs the CardinalOddly, the one time they didn't stumble out of the gate they opened by beating Stanford I believe.
only the use of the term West, to describe Michigan in 2019. If USF is objectionable, let's be honest about others.The fight song harkens to the first ever Rose Bowl, which Michigan won 49-0. The lyrics were written then, and that context should make good sense of them..
Yes, and barely beating Purdue. Northwestern did NOT start the season well.During Lloyd's era, there were only two Big Ten teams with OOC win%'s inferior to their conference win%'s. Michigan and Northwestern were those two teams. On average they lost early and cleaned up late. I haven't rechecked that stat, but it does feel like Northwestern never shook that bug.
I understand that seems to be par for the course for the purple kitties in recent years, but one would think it's a reputation they're interested in shedding.
The fight song harkens to the first ever Rose Bowl, which Michigan won 49-0. The lyrics were written then, and that context should make good sense of them..It's been more than 20 years since the last qualifying win.
It's been more than 20 years since the last qualifying win.It's a good ribbing, which has to be the point.. But like I said, this is born of an ancient win and ancient wins are at least equal to the modern ones. If they weren't, Michigan wouldn't have the rare and durable advantages it has.
Perhaps it's time to sing "Hail, hail to USC, the Champions of the West?" It's not like anyone's going to catch the Trojans for their Rose Bowl record anytime soon. Though, to be fair, Ohio State won the last one, and at least has a winning record out there. Would be a little strange to recognize the Buckeyes in the Michigan fight song, though.
Have you read the Soviet Anthem,Comrade?Had to do something while we were being forced to say the Pledge of Allegiance
The fight song harkens to the first ever Rose Bowl, which Michigan won 49-0. The lyrics were written then, and that context should make good sense of them..Nah.
Had to do something while we were being forced to say the Pledge of AllegianceGolderned Bolshevik Duffy Daugherty would wipe his dupa with Stalin's stache
Nah.I guess no need to put Ohio State in the song, then.
It was written in 1898, and yes, it made sense then because M was celebrating winning the Western Conference.
https://mgoblue.com/news/2009/6/29/Michigan_Fight_Song.aspx
It still makes sense, along the lines of Northwestern being called Northwestern, even though today it's not the Northwest of anything. But, back when this area was referred to as the Northwest territory, it made perfect sense.
Ohio has this thing where they dot an "i" after they play some dumb longass song. Anyone ever see that, and anyone know when it came about?Michigan's band was the first to spell a script Ohio. This was U-M in 1932:
Michigan's band was the first to spell a script Ohio. This was U-M in 1932:Adding a dot is just like adding a stripe or two
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https://www.si.com/college-football/2015/11/20/history-behind-ohio-states-legendary-script-ohio-routine
OSU borrowed it and added a dot. If the trademark goes through, they might add an article.
Michigan's band was the first to spell a script Ohio. This was U-M in 1932:Ohio State wore the Winged Helmet 1st ;D
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https://www.si.com/college-football/2015/11/20/history-behind-ohio-states-legendary-script-ohio-routine
OSU borrowed it and added a dot. If the trademark goes through, they might add an article.
OSU's marching band is certainly the most creative/best(?) marchers I've ever seen, but the script is probably the least impressive thing they do.I like the marching music though
Ohio State wore the Winged Helmet 1st ;DI'm not sure we know who was first since everyone who bought Spalding helmets back then got front panels with a winged organization. That was originally a matter of Spalding's basic manufacturing process. So who was actually first? I don't think that's easy enough to know. Maybe 50 teams tied for first (interestingly, Michigan wasn't one of them!). I've heard it argued that MSU was actually the first of the current Big Ten teams to wear them: