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Topic: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help

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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2018, 05:14:56 PM »
I was just wondering aloud if you had a stable of 4 all-star type RBs, would most people just want the 4 most productive guys, or 4 productive guys with different styles?

4 biggest seasons in 90s:
'96 Troy Davis, '98 Ricky Williams, '96 Ron Dayne, '94 Rashaan Salaam

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4 guys who offer variety/skill sets:
'94 Ki-Jana Carter, '95 Eddie George, '95 Warrick Dunn, '99 Shaun Alexander


Or maybe it's just personal preference?  We could do a vote...….:57:
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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2018, 05:15:26 PM »
rb for 00's to consider:

willis mcgahee 2002 miami. dude was a monster.

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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2018, 05:19:22 PM »
Faulk didn't go to a P5 school.  
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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2018, 11:04:42 PM »
Wishbone squads like OU rarely gave a guy the ball 25 times.  Between Patrick Collins, Spencer Tillman, Anthony Stafford to pick on one roster, I doubt any guy had a full load.  Dupree was a lone exception and of course Switzer went to the I formation briefly because of him, until he gained 100 lbs before the Fiesta Bowl (sidebar: WTF performance in bowl game history).  Heck, Rozier was a rare workhorse for Nebraska until Phillips in '94.
Dupree was the exception
I guess Sims and the guys in front of him played in the 70s
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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2018, 05:06:37 PM »
If you were putting an all-star team together, would you not care about the diversity of your running backs?  I guess that's the question.  


I could do a poll and the choices would be a huge array of RB seasons, but with this group, there'd be a lot of homer picks (nothing wrong with it) and general consensus guys (again, nothing wrong with it).
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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2018, 06:55:48 PM »
Starting at the 2000s (oughts) team at QB.  Interesting top 10 pass rating seasons from 2000-2009 (P5 only):
180.8  Bradford 2008 (OU)
176.5  Bradford 2007 (OU)
175.0  Carpenter 2005 (Arizona St)
173.8  McCoy 2008 (Tex)
172.9  Campbell 2004 (Aub)
172.5  Tebow 2007 (Fla)
172.4  Tebow 2008 (Fla)
170.8  Grossman 2001 (Fla)
170.5  Rivers 2003 (NCST)
167.0  Russell 2006 (LSU)

Mostly obvious guys, but Rudy Carpenter?  In his FR year??  I had no idea.  Carpenter and Campbell had fewer attempts than everyone else.  Only McCoy and Tebow (both years) had any meaningful rushing stats.  Tebow's dwarfs McCoy's.

Who would you pick?
Bradford's 50 TD passes in '08?
Tebow's 55 passing & rushing TDs in '07?
Pure passers Grossman or Rivers?  
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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2018, 07:12:19 PM »
The RBs, by single-season yardage (2000-2009, P5 only):
2,087  Larry Johnson - 2002 (Penn St)
2,063  Damien Anderson - 2000 (N'Western)
2,018  J.J. Arrington - 2004 (Cal)
2,012  Ray Rice - 2007 (Rutgers)
1,986  Darren Sproles - 2003 (Kansas St)
1,925  Adrian Peterson - 2004 (OU)
1,900  Jerome Harrison - 2005 (Washington St)
1,884  Quentin Griffin - 2002 (OU)
1,871  Toby Gerhart - 2009 (Stanford)
1,850  Shonn Greene - 2008 (Iowa)
*I'm not counting 2008 Big East as a P5...once Miami left, it was a glorified Conf USA

There's also...
2005 Reggie Bush (1700 yds @ 8.7 per rush w/ almost 500 yds receiving)
2002 Willis McGehee (1700 yds @ 6.2 per, 28 rushing TD)
2006 Steve Slayton (1700 yds @ 7.0 per, 16 TD)
Mike Hart, Wiliam Green (BC),...McFadden's ypc are more pedestrian than I thought (5.8, 5.6).  
2009 Mark Ingram (1600 yds, 17 TD)


I'd need 4 if I have a statue at QB, or only 3 if I use Tebow/McCoy.
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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2018, 07:12:50 PM »
To me, Bush and Peterson would be must-haves.
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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2018, 07:15:31 PM »
If you were putting an all-star team together, would you not care about the diversity of your running backs?  I guess that's the question.  
depends, is this all-star team going to play someone else's all-star team?
if you take an option QB, do you also take option type RBs and WRs and OL and TE?
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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2018, 07:18:30 PM »
I might take Sproles over Bush, very similar backs
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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2018, 07:55:23 PM »
Sproles' big season equals Bush's in yardage, but Reggie had 2.5 yards more PER TOUCH.  That's massive.
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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #39 on: November 21, 2018, 10:22:29 PM »
To me, Bush and Peterson would be must-haves.
imo, i'd take peterson, bush, rice and mcgahee

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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #40 on: November 21, 2018, 10:28:54 PM »
So with 4 RB, you'd take a pocket-passer QB.  I'm obviously leaning towards including Tebow, which takes a RB spot away.  Of your 4, I see Rice as a goalline guy, is that fair?  Would he provide anything Tebow couldn't in that role?
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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #41 on: November 21, 2018, 10:31:27 PM »
depends, is this all-star team going to play someone else's all-star team?
if you take an option QB, do you also take option type RBs and WRs and OL and TE?
OL isn't involved in this.  It's for a game where you call play types.  This is just an exercise of who should be included in an all-star team.  I'm not confident the players I'd pick would be the ones the majority of potential game-players would expect to see included in the team set.
McGehee was great, but there are plenty of guys with better stats.  But he was part of the Miami juggernaut, super high-visibility, and was on the grandest stage to have his awful injury.  Discovering his inclusion in an all-star team would probably be "cool" to most fans.
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