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Topic: You Know What I Hate....?

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Re: You Know What I Hate....?
« Reply #910 on: August 10, 2025, 06:20:40 PM »
I appreciate the  enormous sounds
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Re: You Know What I Hate....?
« Reply #911 on: August 11, 2025, 09:14:31 AM »
Car designers have to fake those sounds. Gearheads are trained to want to hear them, and to equate them with power. However, they're legacy sounds of inefficiencies. 
The old glasspack style pop and roar comes from valves closing slowly and incompletely in a mechanically linked engine. It's wasted energy and robs horsepower. 
Today's computer timed engines and transmissions, with micromillimeter tolerances, keep all that power contained to the drivetrain. As a result, they don't make much noise. Most of the market for those muscle cars (they still have all the HP to the ground - they just don't need to be loud to do it) doesn't understand this, so the engineers have to design baffles into the exhaust to make noises. At one point, they installed exhaust speakers to play revving noises to fake it.

It isn't just cars. I don't think it's possible to purchase a "regular" truck from Ford or Chevy that doesn't come with a 3" lift and 24" wheels. 

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« Reply #912 on: August 11, 2025, 09:22:03 AM »
I hear what you're saying.  My regular F150 comes with no extra lift and "only" 20 inch wheels.  Of course if you compare an F150 today, to an F150 from 30 years ago, it's already a much larger vehicle that rides higher with more ground clearance, even if it has no additional lift applied.

Honestly I'd prefer 17" wheels and more rubber sidewall on the tires, they'd look a lot cooler.  But a larger wheel with less sidewall is more stable and better for towing, which is my primary purpose for the vehicle, so I guess I'll have to live with it.


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Re: You Know What I Hate....?
« Reply #913 on: August 11, 2025, 09:41:40 AM »
My wife noticed a C7 Covette last night parked unusually, and where it would scrape as it drove off.  I explained a lot of Vettes now have a front end "lift" capability for such situations, even with memory.  It was really low to the ground.  

I recall the 1973 Citroen SM had that capability on all four corners with air suspension.

There is an F150 in the parking lot here I walk by often, it's massive.  Looks like nothing has ever been in the bed.

A lot of the vendors park nearby,  they often have an F250 or equivalent.  This building is 30+ years old and a lot of the units are in their second redo.


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« Reply #914 on: August 11, 2025, 10:23:53 AM »
I wish my F150 bed looked as if nothing had ever been in it.  I most recently hauled a truckload of pecan wood from a friend's ranch over to my dad's house (and kept a little for myself).  The bed is a complete mess because of it.


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Re: You Know What I Hate....?
« Reply #915 on: August 11, 2025, 10:33:53 AM »
I was milling around the showroom at the Hyundai dealer while the oil was changed (for "free").  I was looking at the pickup version of our Tucson, called the Santa Cruz.  I think if I had a house now, I might be interested in one.  


 

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