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Tough call, for me.  

Do we run off our Frank Solich and end up with successive Ron Prince's?

It just didn't hit right when Klieman was talking about how they won 9 games and a bowl last year, and it was a great year.  Dude, went 5-4 in the conference.  

These kids look pretty damn disinterested.  Maybe not as bad as the basketball team last season, but....oh well, I'm a grouchy old fart now.  I have a camper and a boat.  But, I did just pony up $30/month for the Worldwide Leader in Sports so I can watch games, since we're headed for a season of + coverage.

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we have a grumpy old man thread in the Big Ten

Time passing would dictate there's nothing but around here.  Possibly not grumpy, but damn sure old.

I really try not to be that grumpy guy but, it's tough

Grundy just really jumped the shark at oSu. I think he lost the fire.

Yeah I think you're right.  We've talked a lot about how, win or lose, most coaches just seem to have a shelf life at a certain place.

Mack Brown comes to mind, he had a really nice run at Texas but eventually it got stale, he lost his edge, and the era came to an end.

Whodat?

Jimbo Fisher in oSu garb. 

We'll see if Collin Klein gets a look.  Would rather he spend a few more seasons at the ATM before coming home, but wouldn't blame the guy.  If he's not already set for life with their coordinator money, a 5 yr contract with Boone Pickens Ostate would certainly do the trick.

Gundy fired every friggin coach under him to save his skin last year.  I think we know from whom the problem emanates. There's a lot of that going on in this new free agency era, including Dabo and very freakin' close to home.