header pic

The B12 (XII) Forum, home of the 'Front Porch, y'all' at College Football Fan Site, CFB51!!!

The 'Old' CFN/Scout Crowd- Enjoy Civil discussion, game analytics, in depth player and coaching 'takes' and discussing topics surrounding the game. You can even have your own free board, all you have to do is ask!!!

Anyone is welcomed and encouraged to join our FREE site and to take part in our community- a community with you- the user, the fan, -and the person- will be protected from intrusive actions and with a clean place to interact.


Author

Topic: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.

 (Read 215587 times)

MikeDeTiger

  • All Star
  • ******
  • Posts: 2990
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #4242 on: November 14, 2022, 11:20:02 AM »
don't kid yerself, Shaq didn't make many in practice

Beat me to it.  

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37520
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #4243 on: November 14, 2022, 11:35:22 AM »
fast freddie
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37520
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #4244 on: November 14, 2022, 03:39:39 PM »
An eight, a six and six zeroes. $86,000,000!

That is what it would cost Texas A&M to move on from Jimbo Fisher as their head football coach following this debacle of a football season.

Even up to a few days ago it was unthinkable that the program would be in this position. The #1 recruiting class in the world in 2022, a young potential star quarterback, and oh yeah, that $86 Million thing. But here we are, with two games left in the 2022 season, officially eliminated from bowl contention, after losing their 6th straight game in a pathetic 13-10 loss to a bad Auburn team who already fired their coach.

It’s time to say it, it’s time for Jimbo to go.

The numbers are staggering really. Out of 131 FBS programs, on a per game basis the Aggies rank:

108th in scoring 68th in passing yards 78th in passing touchdowns 60th in yards per rush 87th in first downs gained 111th in completion percentage


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/it-s-time-for-jimbo-to-go/ar-AA145RiI?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=fb540fc2c9834026a62414dffce5c00c
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 71536
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #4245 on: November 14, 2022, 04:58:38 PM »
I really cannot explain A&M at all.  If they were say 8-4ish, OK, not a great year but OK.  6-6 would be really a near disaster.  Injuries maybe.

Gigem

  • Starter
  • *****
  • Posts: 2141
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #4246 on: November 14, 2022, 10:35:08 PM »
I really have no answer. Maybe it’s a combination of things. I’m sure you’ve either studied some sort of disaster where some odd event wouldn’t ordinarily change anything but then a couple more odd events line up like holes in layers of Swiss cheese. We literally have a term for this in the chemical biz, called layers of protection. But I digress. 

Firstly, we lost our DC, Mike Elko, to Duke to be the HC. He’s done well there. Then, we lost or S&C coach who went back to OU. He was highly regarded, lots of people bemoaned losing him. Then we lost our OL coach. Ok, whatever, lots of programs shuffle coaches yearly. 

We also lost a couple of seasoned OL early to injury. We lost some really talented guys who were high draft picks. Although our OL were supposed to be talented, it’s a lot of true freshman and redshirt freshmen starting. 

The QB has not really panned out with Haynes King, but the backup guy was a transfer from LSU and played decently if not spectacular. But then he breaks his hand, so now he’s out. The other QB is a true fish. 5*, but raw. 

Next our star WR, Anias Smith, goes out early in the season with a season ending injury. Our top RB, Achane, goes out with an injury before the Auburn game. 

No doubt the offense has been horrendous.  No matter how you slice it you don’t lose games at home to a very mediocre App state. If you have to you run every down, bigger and stronger will always win no matter the scheme. Their defense isn’t all that. 

Gigem

  • Starter
  • *****
  • Posts: 2141
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #4247 on: November 14, 2022, 10:41:57 PM »
You have to wonder also how much motivation a guy has who is guaranteed $10 mill a year for ten years.  Not saying he isn’t trying, but maybe he’s got problems on the home front, with the ex-wife, with the new younger wife, with the son has has a terminal disease. 

Maybe he’s just not mentally all there. And maybe he doesn’t have to be with our 2020 team, loaded with talent and trusted staff. But now you’ve lost your seasoned QB, your solid DC, your veteran OL, and so things start to slip. It’s weird, when you look at all our games you easily see that we were in all of them right up until the end. 

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 71536
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #4248 on: November 15, 2022, 07:15:04 AM »
Those sound like reasons, no one perhaps huge, but collectively it's bad.  I agree that issues outside work can have an impact, and losing a lot of assistants is usually bad as well, or can be, especially that many.

MikeDeTiger

  • All Star
  • ******
  • Posts: 2990
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #4249 on: November 15, 2022, 09:35:29 AM »
...will make it all the more embarrassing for us when they beat LSU to finish their season.  

Gigem

  • Starter
  • *****
  • Posts: 2141
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #4250 on: November 15, 2022, 09:53:44 AM »
Yeah, not a chance in hell.  

I didn't explicitly state it, but you can tell there is something wrong with this team at it's core.  Sure, you can have some bad luck and lose a few games, limp to 6-6.  

Maybe we played too much with fire WRT NIL money, and that is having unseen repercussions, maybe the coach has checked out, maybe the players have checked out.  I think LSU would have to play extraordinarily bad, and A&M would have to play up to their potential.  But just having lost to Auburn, who is in possibly a worse hole than we are, I think we've proved that we're done for the season.  

Always next year, in Aggieland, but next year never comes.  Most of these now seasoned players will transfer, a lot of the so called #1 class will be gone, the ones that remain will probably not pan out for whatever reasons.  And we'll be hiring a new coach in '23/24, just as soon as the PTB (powers that be) cough up whatever money they need to or they find a way to fire him with cause.  

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 71536
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #4251 on: November 15, 2022, 10:01:39 AM »
The locker room can kill even a good team, but they should limp to 6-6 anyway.

CWSooner

  • Team Captain
  • *******
  • Posts: 6045
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #4252 on: November 15, 2022, 12:36:26 PM »
The locker room can kill even a good team, but they should limp to 6-6 anyway.
OU might limp to 6-6 (or not). Texas might collapse to 6-6.
But Texas A&M is not limping, sprinting, staggering, or collapsing to 6-6, as the Aggies are sitting at 3-7.
Play Like a Champion Today

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 71536
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #4253 on: November 15, 2022, 12:51:09 PM »
Yeah, that is why I think it must be a LOT of things compounding on each other.

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37520
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #4254 on: November 15, 2022, 01:13:45 PM »
that's why ya cough up the 86 mil
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

MikeDeTiger

  • All Star
  • ******
  • Posts: 2990
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #4255 on: November 15, 2022, 01:17:50 PM »
They certainly look the part.  Their D-line in particular looks like a group of killers.  Lot of talent and highly rated players.  Jimbo, for whatever flaws he has, is a much better coach than his performance this year.  Really weird.  

We cobbled this team together with transfers and we're going to have to do it again until a couple of full recruiting cycles pass.  Maybe some talented Aggies will come our way.  

 

Support the Site!
Purchase of every item listed here DIRECTLY supports the site.