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« Reply #4186 on: November 02, 2022, 11:26:15 AM »
I made "chili" Monday night and the wife liked it more than usual, she said.  She is averse to heat, so I toned it down a bit, but I also had more beef and less other in it.

I used the Costco "Waygu" ground beef, a lot of onion, bell pepper, diced tomatoes, garlic, seasoning, chili powder my friend makes.

I served it over rice.  I'll likely heat it up for lunch unless I go down the street to get a "Baha Burrito".

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« Reply #4187 on: November 02, 2022, 11:45:32 AM »
I love chili over rice.  I thought only us Louisianans did that.  utee will be along shortly to tell us how that's not actually chili.

He's right.  It's "chili over rice."  

Wife just made some, she used some kind of turkey meat and I couldn't much tell the difference.  She likes hers over Fritos.  I call that Frito Pie, and although I put mine over rice, Frito Pie is delicious.  

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« Reply #4188 on: November 02, 2022, 11:54:38 AM »
There was a chili place in Chapel Hill that served it over rice as an option.  I recall they gave credit to Louisiana.  I was happy, and astonished to see so many chili parlors in Cincinnati, they are everywhere.

Then I had their "chili".

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« Reply #4189 on: November 02, 2022, 12:28:01 PM »
I was saddened to read in your previous link that chocolate in Cincinnati chili is not a real thing.  It always makes me feel better to know that there are people out there dumber than me.  

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« Reply #4190 on: November 02, 2022, 12:29:22 PM »
I never gave it much thought.
What is your definition of fascism ? 

Totalitarianism/authoritarianism but with a hyper-nationalist twist.  

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« Reply #4191 on: November 02, 2022, 01:25:19 PM »
Totalitarianism/authoritarianism but with a hyper-nationalist twist.
It's got an economic component--corporatism, a.k.a. "crony capitalism"--as I described upthread.
Fascism includes something that many people like--being part of a team, with uniforms and a leadership chain.
Boy Scouts, athletic teams, marching bands, military units--they all appeal to their members the way fascism appeals to its followers.
Communism--as it exists in the real world--has the same sort of appeal.
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« Reply #4192 on: November 02, 2022, 02:00:48 PM »
I think we all agree with a different twist.  Mussolini was nominally the first "fascist" (using that name anyway).  He was what I'd call an ultra-nationalist with crony capitalism, which I think describes the Nazis pretty well also.  The big industrialists did well under both, until they didn't.

Porsche built a lot of tanks for the Wehrmacht.

BMW built airplane engines.  Krupp, Baeyer, ... 

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« Reply #4193 on: November 02, 2022, 02:57:38 PM »
I think we all agree with a different twist.  Mussolini was nominally the first "fascist" (using that name anyway).  He was what I'd call an ultra-nationalist with crony capitalism, which I think describes the Nazis pretty well also.  The big industrialists did well under both, until they didn't.

Porsche built a lot of tanks for the Wehrmacht.

BMW built airplane engines.  Krupp, Baeyer, ...
It's funny, though. Hitler and Mussolini--Nazis and Fascists--were enemies before they became allies. One of the things Hitler did after the Anschluss was to purge the Fascists in the Austrian government.
Fascism, Communism, Nazism--they were all rivals to lead the way into the Brave New World. They all featured a uniformed Fearless Leader, they all paraded their military might, they all featured images of bosomy peasant girls harvesting the crops, they all "militarized" the agencies of civil government in the sense of the sub-leaders wearing uniforms and having military-ish rank titles.
Compared to all that cool stuff, free-market capitalism and liberal democracy was seen as base, weak, and corrupt.
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« Reply #4194 on: November 02, 2022, 03:13:15 PM »
Bosomy peasant girls?

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« Reply #4195 on: November 02, 2022, 03:18:53 PM »
Without a long-term view I can see people thinking that.  The free market is slow, it's unwieldy, and will not adapt to changes overnight.  It's "stupid" (blind)....it's the subconscious, doing its thing slowly and without awareness. 

The other "isms" rely on central planning, which responds quickly and decisively.  There's instant direction and purposeful response to economic conditions.  It's the conscious...aware and works with intent.  

It's also hopelessly inadequate for soving the vast complexities of the real world, and in the long run can't possibly solve supply and demand problems that capitalism will eventually sort out.  The free market is the giant neural network of the human race, running algorithms in the background of society to solve problems that a bunch of clever guys in an office can't possibly hope to manage long term.  No person or group of people can navigate the complexity of the real world for very long.  

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« Reply #4196 on: November 02, 2022, 05:17:27 PM »
I made "chili" Monday night and the wife liked it more than usual, she said.  She is averse to heat, so I toned it down a bit, but I also had more beef and less other in it.

I used the Costco "Waygu" ground beef, a lot of onion, bell pepper, diced tomatoes, garlic, seasoning, chili powder my friend makes.

I served it over rice.  I'll likely heat it up for lunch unless I go down the street to get a "Baha Burrito".
similar to what Iowans call chili, they like beans in it.
and only serve it in a bowl with saltine crackers, never over rice or noodles
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« Reply #4197 on: November 02, 2022, 05:41:47 PM »
This is the only kind of "chili" I've ever had save that Cincy stuff.  I don't really care what someone calls it.

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« Reply #4198 on: November 03, 2022, 11:29:31 AM »
go to a couple chili cook off competitions

you will experience many types of "chili"

white chili with chicken - sweet chili - some things I sure as hell wouldn't call chili

at least that happens here
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« Reply #4199 on: November 03, 2022, 11:46:19 AM »
Oh yeah, I forgot "white chili".  What I've had was very good.


 

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