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« Reply #3724 on: June 07, 2022, 12:48:58 PM »
I really don't know much about the whole ordeal....but from my POV....he went looking for trouble and found trouble.  And lots of it.  It may have been his right, but like Mr Myagi says best defense is "no be there".  

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« Reply #3725 on: June 07, 2022, 01:04:37 PM »
I really don't know much about the whole ordeal....but from my POV....he went looking for trouble and found trouble.  And lots of it.  It may have been his right, but like Mr Myagi says best defense is "no be there". 
He had family there whose property was being burned

The mayor completely turned his back on this as did the Governor

I have nothing but very high regards for him

and I hope hes successful in court suing various parties who defamed him
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« Reply #3726 on: June 07, 2022, 02:07:27 PM »
I really don't know much about the whole ordeal....but from my POV....he went looking for trouble and found trouble.  And lots of it.  It may have been his right, but like Mr Myagi says best defense is "no be there". 
He was called to action by a local. Obviously he should not have gone - even he admits this.

But, for those of us who were there and lived through it, it's probably a good thing he was there. Everything came to an end with the killing of two thugs.

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« Reply #3727 on: June 08, 2022, 08:58:59 AM »
I have no problem with Rittenhouse, and as I stated, I don't really know much about the case.  Maybe just a case of wrong place and wrong time.  

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« Reply #3728 on: June 23, 2022, 02:59:34 PM »
Big news outta Austin today as Arch Manning commits to the Longhorns.  I gather he will be a sophmore when UT moves to the SEC in 2024?  

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« Reply #3729 on: June 23, 2022, 04:07:54 PM »
It should be an interesting battle for QB1 a year from now.
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« Reply #3730 on: June 24, 2022, 11:24:22 AM »

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« Reply #3731 on: June 25, 2022, 10:00:09 AM »
Will even acquiring Arch Manning, help Texas get over the hump in football? Tom Herman didn’t help, but he was awesome at Ohio State. They always have good talent, but that hasn’t mattered. Hiring Steve Sarkisian, and having him recruit well, isn’t going to do the trick either. Texas has wonderful facilities, so that isn’t the problem.  Texas’ problems are clearly cultural in nature: they seem pampered, soft, entitled, and Austin is too much damned fun (these are young guys with too much temptation). They have all the pieces to win, but never seem to be able to accomplish that goal. I think Arch Manning made a poor choice, but only time will tell. What prevents Texas from winning with top athletes, great coaches, fan support and everything else in their favor, year after year? Toxic culture.

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« Reply #3732 on: June 25, 2022, 10:02:57 AM »
Other cities are fun also.  I think it's coaching, and little else.  A string of poor coaches can take down even an elite program obviously.  And then it's tough to climb back until/unless you find a good coach.  Look at USC and Nebraska for examples, and Tennessee, Miami, FSU ...

They might not need an Urban Meyer level coach, but they do need someone quite good, maybe Sark is it.

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« Reply #3733 on: June 25, 2022, 10:44:10 PM »
None of us are inside the UT program, so we don't know squat for sure.
However, a theory that a lot of OU fans have is that the Texas HFC operates under excessively restrictive guidance from the BMDs.
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« Reply #3734 on: June 26, 2022, 05:48:26 AM »
Could be a factor, but "coaching" is obviously a broad term and has a lot to it, including getting very able assistants, by the HC.  

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« Reply #3735 on: June 27, 2022, 08:47:37 AM »
I've spelled it out before. Recency bias and whatnot.

Mack and DeLoss seemed to do pretty well for a while - to the point where we grumbled when we didn't win at least 10. The BMDs thought they had Saban on the hook to replace him. They didn't. Mack 'retired', and DeLoss was fed up. Enter panic mode and Steve Patterson who made his name with 'austerity measures' - apparently clueless that Texas prints money and has the exact opposite problem. No decent coach with a job wanted to risk that. We got Charlie Strong who could have learned, but he was never the organization's choice. Tom Herman was a lifetime Texas boy and the wunderkind of the moment who was picking either Texas or LSU for his next gig. Texas took him. He set about being Urban Meyer level jerk with none of the winning.

Which brings us here. Chris del Conte is the leader Texas needs. In almost dime novel fashion, Sark took the reins of a program, thought he was all that, and had it blow up. He destroyed himself, then had to seek the cfb sensei to rebuild. He's now in charge of a once-great institution that's been relegated to has-beens. He brought with him the best minds in the business (Kyle Flood is the reason Georgia has a trophy). It's all a bunch of potential right now.

Texas suffered from program rot during the last 2 or 3 seasons of Mack's run, but that angle is grossly overblown. Most of the rest is straightforward mismanagement.

Arch Manning is a rare talent. It's always better to have them than not. With a nod to our Purple Posters of yore, Texas will rebuild the program by winning the line of scrimmage.

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« Reply #3736 on: June 27, 2022, 08:56:28 AM »
I had to google Kyle Flood.  I don't understand his connection to UGA.

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« Reply #3737 on: June 27, 2022, 10:28:16 AM »
I had to google Kyle Flood.  I don't understand his connection to UGA.

Connection is he used to be Alabama's OL coach. He came with Sark to Texas. Bama dropped off the power run noticeably last season.

I appreciate offensive innovation, but I still  believe football works from the inside out. If you don't do anything about it, I want to run the football through the A gap off the Center's butt. I need you to commit defensive resources to stop that play. After that, we'll attack other areas.

If there's a voodoo skill in college football, it's going into a high school, seeing the 16-17 year old males, and deciding which ones of the 6'4 270lbs guys in there could carry 310lbs on 6'6" and still be fast enough to pull by the time they're 20 years old. I believe strongly that Flood is one of the better coaches at doing that.


 

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