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Cincydawg · « **Reply #3276 on:** February 09, 2022, 04:55:46 PM »

I like the look of the current 'stangs. I've had a rental convertible a few times, they drive like crap though, the cheapie drive trains. My wife enjoys them though.

I was surprised how poorly the ecoboost ran, maybe it was tired.

The others were V6s back in the day.

So, I'd have to get the GT model, they run around $50 K new. I keep looking for one 2-3 years old, along with the BMW 240i.

utee94 · « **Reply #3277 on:** February 09, 2022, 05:24:57 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on February 09, 2022, 04:55:46 PM

I like the look of the current 'stangs. I've had a rental convertible a few times, they drive like crap though, the cheapie drive trains. My wife enjoys them though.

I was surprised how poorly the ecoboost ran, maybe it was tired.

The others were V6s back in the day.

So, I'd have to get the GT model, they run around $50 K new. I keep looking for one 2-3 years old, along with the BMW 240i.

Ecoboost on my truck is bad-ass. Of course it's the 3.5L not the 2.3L version found in the Mustang.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #3278 on:** February 09, 2022, 05:51:54 PM »

Yeah, I hated the drive train, that 10 speed transmission was awful and power was anemic.

It was actually hard to drive for me, and I don't say that about the Kias I often rent.

I had something in France that was a DCT and impossible to drive when you need to creep up on something, which is common there as you know.

Fortunately they usually have manuals on rentals.

utee94 · « **Reply #3279 on:** February 09, 2022, 05:56:04 PM »

My F150 has the 6-speed, they didn't start putting in the 10-speed in the F150 for another couple of years. But from various folks on the owners' forums, they seem to like it a great deal. Especially for towing.

I haven't had any issues with my 6-speed though, it's worked just fine for my purposes.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #3280 on:** February 09, 2022, 05:58:20 PM »

I expected the 2.3 L to be more like my GTI which is of course a 2.0 L. My GTI of course has a manual in it.

utee94 · « **Reply #3281 on:** February 09, 2022, 06:01:35 PM »

About 1 year from now, I might be knee-deep in finding out. My daughter wants a Mustang for her first car, and her grandparents are likely to get her whatever she wants, used and within reason of course. They're not the Rockefellers.

I was thinking a 12-year-old Volvo station wagon would be a good idea, but she doesn't seem to be going for that.

Mr Tulip · « **Reply #3282 on:** February 09, 2022, 06:08:24 PM »

Psh. My son has a beauty of a 2012 Toyota Corolla sitting practically untouched in Grammy's garage waiting for him in August of this year (provided I don't kill him prior to that).

I may swap the head unit in it to an Android Auto compatible one just because I know he'll have his phone there whether I tell him to or not. Rather have it paired and hands-free.

If it survives the first year, I'll drop the dual 15"'s in the trunk.

utee94 · « **Reply #3283 on:** February 09, 2022, 06:40:33 PM »

Smart move making allowances for the hands-free.

And a 10-year-old Corolla is pretty much a Bentley compared to my 1981 Dodge Omni.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #3284 on:** February 09, 2022, 07:10:34 PM »

I once posed a question around the lunch table what vehicle Bill Gates should buy for his 16 year old.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #3285 on:** February 09, 2022, 07:28:47 PM »

2021 Cadillac Escalade Diesel Is Smooth, Fuel-Sipping Euphoria (caranddriver.com)

all this slick versatility carried an $111,865 as-tested price, but that doesn't seem to bother Cadillac shoppers, who are readily forking over more than $100,000 for their 2021 Escalades.

CWSooner · « **Reply #3286 on:** February 09, 2022, 08:31:34 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on February 09, 2022, 11:11:39 AM

The advanced battery packs today are "part of the frame", an integral part, it would be tough to swap them out and maintain frame stiffness without weight gains.

GM’s purpose-engineered ‘skateboard’ EV chassis uses the huge 24-module Ultium battery pack, rather than a ladder frame, as its foundational structure. That makes it “extremely stiff” in bending and torsion, Kraatz noted. Combined with Silverado’s independent suspension the skateboard structure benefits ride/handling and simplifies GM’s bill-of-material and in-plant complexity, at the expense of customer choice. The industry will be watching which EV pickup strategy, GM’s or Ford’s, proves most profitable over time.

A super-stiff frame allows softer springing at the wheels, hence better ride/handling qualities.

Gigem · « **Reply #3287 on:** February 09, 2022, 09:29:57 PM »

My ‘12 F-150 3.5 EB was indeed a powerful beast. About 90k miles on it when I sold it. Worst truck I ever owned. Shame too, because I loved the truck, but it had too many problems.

My ‘16 Ram with the 3 liter diesel isn’t nearly as fast but I love the little Diesel engine. The truck has been much more solid than the Ford. I tow all kinds of stuff with it too, like my Kubota tractor. Great fuel mileage too, gets in the upper 20’s unloaded and high teens towing lightly. The F-150 never managed more than 15-16 unloaded.

utee94 · « **Reply #3288 on:** February 09, 2022, 09:44:39 PM »

No issues at all with my 2015 F150. And it had the best towing capacity and the largest cab of all options at the time, so a no-brainer for me.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #3289 on:** February 10, 2022, 08:23:03 AM »

Frame stiffness in vehicles is a big virtue these days, and car makers design various chassis for various car/truck types and sizes to maximum stiffness and minimize weight.

A battery pack is there and adds, potentially, frame stiffness with little weight penalty if done properly. This is why cars feel so much tighter today than in 1970, and it's a thing I really notice when I drive an older vehicle, even a restomod.

It's interesting to me how the Chevy EV truck is described as something in between body on frame and unibody. I'm not sure what that means.

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