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longhorn320 · « **Reply #2800 on:** September 20, 2021, 05:07:08 PM »

Quote from: MikeDeTiger on September 20, 2021, 04:41:37 PM

Mrs. DeBurntOrange cares. She's actually into way more sports than me. She's an avid tennis follower, NFL, and MLB as well, which I don't care about so I'm free to tag along and root for whatever makes her happy. All things considered we have few points of possible contention. She seems to have a hard time remembering that I'm not a Saints fan, she frequently would tell me she was sorry they lost. I've explained that I liked watching Drew Brees but have never been a Saints fan, but I don't think it computes with her. She's Cowboys girl through and through, I don't think she can relate to not being bummed out when your NFL team loses. I don't have an NFL team. Since she often has games on and I'm forced to notice them in passing, I pick out former LSU guys and root for them to have good games.

you definitely married up

utee94 · « **Reply #2801 on:** September 20, 2021, 05:17:54 PM »

Quote from: Mr Tulip on September 20, 2021, 04:48:15 PM

Lin Manuel Miranda cast himself as Hamilton. He's actually the weakest part of the whole ensemble! =P

I likewise don't usually dig musicals. I'm not much of a singer (although I'm hoping to land a part in "Ring of Fire" this week), and enjoy letting my music breathe to the point where I don't care to tie it to action onstage.

Theater productions have several lives. They obviously hit the "big time" stages first. Once they get past whatever contract is there, they get released to tour and travel. Eventually, they get released to the local producers. I'm bracing myself for every high school wanting to try it on.

"Tommy" is a self indulgent Townshend vanity project. It's got some fantastically awesome hits in it! No doubt! The story and acting, though, is unwatchable (well, there's Ann Margaret, so not unwatchable).

And there are those that think similarly of Hamilton, up to and including Lin Manuel Miranda's choice of casting, you know, himself, as Hamilton.

longhorn320 · « **Reply #2802 on:** September 20, 2021, 05:18:14 PM »

Quote from: Mr Tulip on September 20, 2021, 04:48:15 PM

"Tommy" is a self indulgent Townshend vanity project. It's got some fantastically awesome hits in it! No doubt! The story and acting, though, is unwatchable (well, there's Ann Margaret, so not unwatchable).

yep

I mean Elton John, Eric Clapton, Keith Moon, Jack Nicholson and Tina Turner

bunch of amateurs

utee94 · « **Reply #2803 on:** September 20, 2021, 05:21:57 PM »

Quote from: longhorn320 on September 20, 2021, 05:18:14 PM

yep

I mean Elton John, Eric Clapton, Keith Moon, Jack Nicholson and Tina Turner

bunch of amateurs

Heh... indeed.

I really only brought up Tommy as an example of a musical theater production, with a style of music that differed from the norm, and that many people (including my parents) disliked and rejected.

And most everybody accepted that just fine, because in THAT case, everyone understood that art is a matter of personal taste.

The woke culture (and the PC culture that preceded it) have done a tremendous amount of damage to the freedom of expression that is absolutely critical for the pure expression and appreciation of art-- which includes the freedom to dislike any art you feel like, and openly state that opinion if you desire, without fear of your opinion being canceled by those who fear individual thought.

Mr Tulip · « **Reply #2804 on:** September 20, 2021, 05:50:56 PM »

I never saw it live. I saw Ken Burns' movie, so maybe it's better onstage. It's billed as a "rock opera", since there's no dialog other than the songs.

And yeah, Miranda is a pretty brilliant playwright, but he needs to give his roles to an actual actor. It feels like the coach's son playing QB sometimes.

MikeDeTiger · « **Reply #2805 on:** September 20, 2021, 05:51:15 PM »

Quote from: longhorn320 on September 20, 2021, 05:07:08 PM

you definitely married up

No doubt.

Are you a Cowboys fan? I woulda took you for a Texans fan, being a Houston guy.

MikeDeTiger · « **Reply #2806 on:** September 20, 2021, 05:53:17 PM »

Quote from: utee94 on September 20, 2021, 05:21:57 PM

The woke culture (and the PC culture that preceded it) have done a tremendous amount of damage to the freedom of expression that is absolutely critical for the pure expression and appreciation of art-- which includes the freedom to dislike any art you feel like, and openly state that opinion if you desire, without fear of your opinion being canceled by those who fear individual thought.

Comedians have been pretty vocal lately about the woke culture. They say it's killing their careers.

You know things have soured when Bill Maher rants about the far left.

longhorn320 · « **Reply #2807 on:** September 20, 2021, 07:31:13 PM »

Quote from: MikeDeTiger on September 20, 2021, 05:51:15 PM

No doubt.

Are you a Cowboys fan? I woulda took you for a Texans fan, being a Houston guy.

you bet

there was a time when right before the cowboy kickoff when the kicker would look over to the ref for approval to kick the ref would make sure I was sitting in front of the TV with a cold one and then give his approval to kick

in high school our offensive line ( of which I was one) would rise and fall like the boys used to do before the ball is snapped

those were the days

CWSooner · « **Reply #2808 on:** September 20, 2021, 10:33:44 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on September 20, 2021, 02:31:30 PM

I don't enjoy musicals that are movies, none of them. I can abide a few of them where the singing is part of the gig, like SOM. I never have liked them.

I really like classical music, most of it, which many find "boring", which is OK with me. I mostly was amused that my negative opinion elicited such reactions from some.

The audience at Hamilton was 90% white and at least half over 50 from what I could see. The audience at the symphonies we attend is 90+% white and much older. I do see more younger folks in Atlanta than in Cincinnati.

Cincinnati has a fabulous venue built in 1885 or so, and we got to know the conductor, a really neat French dude. Atlanta's venue is more modern, circa 1960 or so, and not really very welcoming, and the acoustics are not great.

Is Cincinnati's music hall the one that his supposed to be haunted, or was built on top of a burial ground, or something like that?

CWSooner · « **Reply #2809 on:** September 20, 2021, 10:42:04 PM »

Quote from: longhorn320 on September 20, 2021, 02:42:34 PM

I cant think of any successful musical that wasnt made into a movie

hard to believe you dont like the movie version West Side Story or South Pacific

I like both of those.
But a WWII combat Marine, Robert Leckie, who wrote Helmet for My Pillow, went to see South Pacific on Broadway and angrily walked out, saying that WWII was not a musical. One might ask what he thought he was going to see.
This poem is taken from the aforementioned book. It describes a battle along the Tenaru River on Guadalcanal.

The Battle of the Tenaru, August 21, 1942
by Robert Leckie

A helmet for my pillow,
A poncho for my bed,
My rifle rests across my chest-
The stars swing overhead.

The whisper of the kunai,
The murmur of the sea,
The sighing palm and night so calm
Betray no enemy.

Hear! river bank so silent
You men who sleep around
That foreign scream across the stream-
Up! Fire at the sound!

Sweeping over the sandspit
That blocks the Tenaru
With Banzai-boast a mushroomed host
Vows to destroy our few.

Into your holes and gunpits!
Kill them with rifles and knives!
Feed them with lead until they are dead-
And widowed are their wives.

Sons of the mothers who gave you
Honor and gift of birth
Strike with the knife till blood and life
Run out upon the earth.

Marines, keep faith with your glory
Keep to your trembling hole.
Intruder feel of Nippon steel
Can't penetrate your soul.

Closing, they charge all howling
Their breasts all targets large.
The gun must shake, the bullets make
A slaughter of their charge.

Red are the flashing tracers,
Yellow the bursting shells.
Hoarse is the cry of men who die
Shrill are the woundeds' yells.

God, how the night reels stricken!
She shrieks with orange spark.
The mortar's lash and cannon's crash
Have crucified the dark.

Falling, the faltering foemen
Beneath our guns lie heaped.
By greenish glare of rocket's flare
We see the harvest reaped.

Now has the first fierce onslaught
Been broken and hammered back.
Hammered and hit, from hole and pit-
We rise up to attack!

Day bursts pale from a gun tube,
The gibbering night has fled.
By light of dawn the foe has drawn
A line behind his dead.

Our tanks clank in behind him,
Our riflemen move out.
Their hearts have met our bayonet-
It's ended with a shout.

"Cease fire!" -the words go ringing,
Over the heaps of the slain.
The battle's won, the Rising Sun
Lies riddled on the plain.

St. Michael, angel of battle
We praise you to God on high.
The foe you gave was strong and brave
And unafraid to die.

Speak to the Lord for our comrades,
Killed when the battle seemed lost.
They went to meet a bright defeat-
The hero's holocaust.

False is the vaunt of the victor,
Empty our living pride.
For those who fell there is no hell-
Not for the brave who died.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #2810 on:** September 21, 2021, 08:02:31 AM »

Quote from: CWSooner on September 20, 2021, 10:33:44 PM

Is Cincinnati's music hall the one that his supposed to be haunted, or was built on top of a burial ground, or something like that?

Maybe, not that I know of. It was recently refurbished to the tune of $85 million and it looks great. It was funded by German immigrants who did well here back in the day, it's in the area termed "Over the Rhine" because it's north of what once was a canal.

Cincinnati Music Hall

Music Hall was built over a potter's field, a place where immigrants and the poor who had died without identification were buried. It is rumored that the "soul and spirits" of those buried now haunt the building, according to Friends of Music Hall.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #2811 on:** September 21, 2021, 08:05:03 AM »

We really enjoyed going there even though it was a 12 mile drive. Now we can walk but the new hall is sterile. My wife got to know the Cincy conductor and his wife very well, Louis Langree, he's an interesting character, really a fun guy. I greatly enjoyed his conducting style.

The ASO conductor is in his last year, Robert Spano, she tried to get Langree apply for the position. I hope they can upgrade/update the hall soon, COVID wiped out a season of course and the funds. Now they are checking vax cards at the door. My vax card could be duplicated in about 5 seconds.

MikeDeTiger · « **Reply #2812 on:** September 21, 2021, 09:44:08 AM »

So you're in ATL these days? What precipitated the move away from Cincy?

And now don't we have to change your name to AtlantaDawg?

utee94 · « **Reply #2813 on:** September 21, 2021, 09:46:43 AM »

You really HAVE been gone awhile.

In other recent news, Fidel Castro is dead!

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