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Thumper · « **Reply #2521 on:** August 16, 2021, 01:38:26 AM »

So, Saturday Mrs. Thumper and I went to Ft Riley to see the Custer House Museum and the 1st territorial capital of Kansas. On the drive in we saw the building for the UH 60 simulator. Think they will let me take it for a spin?

Mrs. Thumper was bummed that the actual house the Custers had occupied had burned down and we were touring one of the 6 original officers homes. Actually they were really nice digs for 1855. Most of the original limestone buildings used "local limestone" as the description called it. It was actually from post rock country west of Salina about 90 miles away. Hard to imagine they haule all that in with wagons and mules. Also impressive was the fact that all the woodwork was milled in Cincinnati and hauled in. It was some really pretty figured walnut and cherry.

The territorial capital was a 2 story limestone building that all that is left of a town called Pawnee City. It was only the capital for 5 days. The legislature was called the Bogus Legislature 
Bogus Legislature . Seems like modern times.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #2522 on:** August 16, 2021, 08:41:40 AM »

Sometimes, these lesser known historical sites are the most interesting.

CWSooner · « **Reply #2523 on:** August 16, 2021, 02:07:16 PM »

Quote from: Thumper on August 16, 2021, 01:38:26 AM

So, Saturday Mrs. Thumper and I went to Ft Riley to see the Custer House Museum and the 1st territorial capital of Kansas. On the drive in we saw the building for the UH 60 simulator. Think they will let me take it for a spin?

Mrs. Thumper was bummed that the actual house the Custers had occupied had burned down and we were touring one of the 6 original officers homes. Actually they were really nice digs for 1855. Most of the original limestone buildings used "local limestone" as the description called it. It was actually from post rock country west of Salina about 90 miles away. Hard to imagine they haule all that in with wagons and mules. Also impressive was the fact that all the woodwork was milled in Cincinnati and hauled in. It was some really pretty figured walnut and cherry.

The territorial capital was a 2 story limestone building that all that is left of a town called Pawnee City. It was only the capital for 5 days. The legislature was called the Bogus Legislature . Seems like modern times.

Did they say when the Custer house burned down? I was up there in the early '90s for a command post exercise and I think I remember that it was standing.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #2524 on:** August 16, 2021, 04:25:10 PM »

I sometimes wonder how much a modern "people's car" would cost today, a very basic, economical, but safe reasonably spacious small car without bells and whistles. I'm pretty sure there would be minimal profit potential at best which is why we don't have one. I imagine air cooling is not an option today, but a small 3 cylinder turbo should be fairly cheap, a basic interior, very few options, just a car.

My daughter once had an el strippo Chevy Cruise, it had zero options, none, and it was still very nicely equipped.

FearlessF · « **Reply #2525 on:** August 16, 2021, 05:02:23 PM »

power steering, power brakes, cruise control, am/fm radio, tilt wheel, heat & A/C

crank windows and adjustable seats, no power

Cincydawg · « **Reply #2526 on:** August 16, 2021, 05:11:27 PM »

Her Cruze had power windows, I think today it's cheaper. No power seat though. I'm not sure how basic one could make a car today really.

It would be interesting to try. A heater used to be an option on cars.

Mr Tulip · « **Reply #2527 on:** August 16, 2021, 05:31:38 PM »

Like the old VW microbus that was little more than a rear engine power plant, frame, and a steering mechanism. That was the point of the original "Mini" in England. It was something you could drive.

Wonder what I could do with like a double shaft electric motor up front and enough battery power for 200 miles? Seems like you could do something real simple and no frills.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #2528 on:** August 16, 2021, 07:11:33 PM »

I like the idea of a simple EV, maybe even with 120 miles range. You could get pretty good low end punch from it. For an around town car, it would be great I think, if cheap enough. How often do folks drive over 120 miles in a year, with their second car?

Maybe a two seater hatch? Companies build ever more complex and equipped vehicles because of profit, I wonder if this is a niche. Nissan has their Leaf, but it's too expensive I think.

Thumper · « **Reply #2529 on:** August 16, 2021, 07:12:45 PM »

Quote from: CWSooner on August 16, 2021, 02:07:16 PM

Did they say when the Custer house burned down? I was up there in the early '90s for a command post exercise and I think I remember that it was standing.

The lady at the desk didn't know when it happened and I haven't bee able to find out. The Custer's lived at #21 and the current museum is at #24. It looked to me like there is a house at that location so I'm guessing they rebuilt it with modern materials.

Gigem · « **Reply #2530 on:** August 17, 2021, 01:21:39 AM »

You can buy a small, cheap car brand new for around $15k. I can’t imagine how cutting the few extras like ac or power windows would cut the cost much.

Cut the safety features, like the beefier doors and crash zones and air bags now you’re getting the price down.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #2531 on:** August 17, 2021, 10:51:27 AM »

Yeah, it would be tough, and with little profit. I doubt you could cut AC or PW. I think the Nissan Versa is the cheapest car you can buy today.

The "Smart" car is more my thought, but it was always way expensive for its size. I've seen them on the freeway, they look dangerous.

The notion of a cheap EV is interesting, maybe 120 miles range. Maybe that's the Leaf, which is not cheap.

Thumper · « **Reply #2532 on:** August 17, 2021, 01:02:41 PM »

The USA required safety and emission controls and certifications really add a lot to the cost of a basic car. For instance this is required to have antilock brakes:

Emissions controls and the brakes are a substantial part of the $3900 price tag. Still, this would be an excellent urban commuter for most folks at 112 mpg. The 45 mph top speed with a 200 lb rider would limit it to city streets or backroads.

This EV isn't available in the US at this time but is expected to be soon. With a 70 mph top speed, 75 mile range, a 36 liter trunk and $1,350 price tag (probably $1700 to $2000 when it gets here), I could see this as my 2nd vehicle.

utee94 · « **Reply #2533 on:** August 17, 2021, 01:08:12 PM »

I have a friend who used to collect and restore vintage Vespas. I always thought it would be cool to have one.

(this is not his collection, just a rando picture from the internet, but he did have a black/white one and a blue one that looked like the ones in this picture)

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