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CousinFreddie · « **Reply #224 on:** November 25, 2017, 08:34:28 PM »

Quote from: FearlessF on November 25, 2017, 07:47:20 PM

Riley was gone before noon today

it was time

yes, worst season in 55 years

Bring back Dr Tom!
He’s only 2 years older than Coach Snyder

FearlessF · « **Reply #225 on:** November 25, 2017, 10:04:57 PM »

Doc Tom's last victory will be bringing Scott Frost back to UNL

CWSooner · « **Reply #226 on:** November 25, 2017, 10:57:12 PM »

Quote from: longhorn320 on November 20, 2017, 05:06:18 PM

No BC this is John Buford a Cavalry Officer for the Union at Gettysburg
The Union had a second Cavalry division at Gettysburg with George Custer its commanding officer
anyway Buford's cavalry was the first to make contact with the south on the 1st day of battle and is credited with keeping the South from getting the high ground there
which might have caused a union defeat

I hold John Buford in the highest respect too, 320. He didn't win the battle, but he determined what was the key terrain, and his dispositions and his leadership on the morning of 1 July 1863 ensured that the Union would be fighting from the top of the key terrain, while the Confederates would spend the next 2 1/2 days fighting uphill into the teeth of Union defenses.

But there were actually three Union cavalry divisions. 1st was Buford's, which performed as you described. 2nd was David Gregg's. The Cavalry Corps CG MG Alfred Pleasanton thought Gregg was hell on wheels, when actually he had little idea of what was out in front of him. 3rd was Judson Kilpatrick (a.k.a. "Kill Cavalry"), and Custer was a brigade commander in this division.

Custer's brigade fought against the lead brigade of Jeb Stuart's command well east of Cemetery Ridge on 3 July, and there's at least one historian who believes that this fight precluded Stuart striking the Union line on Cemetery Ridge from the rear just as "Pickett's Charge" was striking it from the front, and just maybe saved the battle for the Union.

longhorn320 · « **Reply #227 on:** November 26, 2017, 01:12:53 AM »

wow thanks for you reply CW

I always thought there were only 2 cav divisions at Gettysburg

One thing I noted about Buford was his feeling that a cavalry unit should be able to dismount and fight

similar to an army unit

I guess it was this ability to dismount and fight that made the difference that first day

anyway its great hearing from you

CWSooner · « **Reply #228 on:** November 26, 2017, 11:49:33 AM »

Quote from: longhorn320 on November 26, 2017, 01:12:53 AM

wow thanks for you reply CW

I always thought there were only 2 cav divisions at Gettysburg

One thing I noted about Buford was his feeling that a cavalry unit should be able to dismount and fight

similar to an army unit

I guess it was this ability to dismount and fight that made the difference that first day

anyway its great hearing from you

Yep. Buford was ahead of the curve in learning that the rifle-musket pushed mounted troops out of the main battle area. Cavalry had to be able to fight dismounted or become nothing more than a scouting force. Back to WWI, it was a lesson that, even with the advent of rapid-fire rifles and machine-guns, the European armies hadn't learned as of 1914.

CousinFreddie · « **Reply #229 on:** November 26, 2017, 11:25:29 PM »

Back to football, Kevlin Sumlin was let go at A&M, in spite of having yet another winning season in the tough SEC. Seems to me he had a pretty good run; never good enough to win a conf title but his A&M teams played respectably well. Never lost more than 5 games and always had winning bowl eligible teams.

What do folks think? Time for him to go or did the Aggies act prematurely?

CWSooner · « **Reply #230 on:** November 27, 2017, 12:30:10 AM »

The Aggies are delusional, and will never be satisfied with a coach who doesn't take them to where they think they belong, but the pattern of Sumlin's wins and losses made him particularly vulnerable. Every year, he got off to an impressive start, and every year his teams staggered to the finish line.

That's my not-very-in-depth assessment, anyway.

Shiner · « **Reply #231 on:** November 27, 2017, 09:03:47 AM »

Ahh... the predictable mentality from the fan of a "blueblood" school. A&M and schools of their ilk should just sit back and enjoy winning seasons and not bother to aspire to anything better. Just be happy where you're at. *** yawn ***

Sumlin's offense has dropped off in recent years due to questionable hires at the OC position.... He struggled to put together a consistent running game... the OL has clearly dropped off after Sherman's kids graduated. He's struggled to finish out seasons with strong starts. He's finished above .500 in SEC west play only once... has barely a winning record in the SEC overall... and has a LOSING SEC RECORD AT HOME. Nevermind his stunngingly bad decision making at the end of games at times (see UCLA).

I would presume just a couple of these bullet points would be enough to ouster a coach at an OU or Ohio State or somesuch.

While I personally wasn't 100% convinced we should fire him at this point... The justification is clearly there for those that were.

longhorn320 · « **Reply #232 on:** November 27, 2017, 09:31:02 AM »

there are sure a lot of coaches available to aggie to hire

better find one that can beat Florida, Bama, Georgia, LSU and Auburn or nothing will change

Shiner · « **Reply #233 on:** November 27, 2017, 10:35:09 AM »

Yep..... preferably all in the same season, at least on occasion.

Guess we'll see what we get. Been watching the dumpster fire that is the Tennessee head coaching search... can't help but laugh... while at the same time remember that if there's a school that could out-do their ability to go full-retard when trying to hire a new head coach, it's probably us.

utee94 · « **Reply #234 on:** November 27, 2017, 10:58:02 AM »

Agree with all of Shiner's take. I don't know if I personally would have favored firing Sumlin were I an Aggie, at least not quite yet, but I can certainly understand those that did want him fired.

BrownCounty · « **Reply #235 on:** November 27, 2017, 10:59:59 AM »

I remember when my school would fire a coach for 7 wins. Those were the days.

And my instinct is to be envious if A&M lands Jimbo.

Shiner · « **Reply #236 on:** November 27, 2017, 11:05:32 AM »

We'll see on the Jimbo thing.... We seem to be all in on him. Eerily quiet right now on both fronts (A&M's and Jimbo's) with no other names being mentioned. Latest thing I've heard is he'll be announced after their game this weekend.... I have to believe given the supposed offer on the table that he's a legit possibility. $7.5Million isn't chump change for any school.

I'm not sure how he'd do at A&M.... or if he'll fit. I'm not sure of much of anything in college football anymore.

Right now, my bar is low..... I'd settle for just knocking off LSU for once.

BrownCounty · « **Reply #237 on:** November 27, 2017, 11:21:30 AM »

If Jimbo accepts, and if the dollars we have been hearing are real, Jimbo must win. Well, sort of.

A&M has set a new precedent by throwing this kind of money around. Quite likely, A&M can afford it. Even if Jimbo is a bust. I'm sure others will knee slap if Jimbo flops, but truth is - A&M is pure bank these days, and is willing to use it.

Texas, otoh, is kicking back and cashing LHN checks. I do not see urgency at Texas. Yes, after losing to Kansas we replaced a coach, but the fact is we do not even have an Athletic Director, and this is Texas. I'm laying this at Fenves' feet. And it's what we get for continually hiring these Berkeley nancies to run UT. As long as athletics makes money, then it's fine. And LHN is why we make money, which is revenue independent of success.

Back to A&M, you have to believe it's purely a cash move for Jimbo, and the passion will have to come later. I'm not sure how that would work out. Aggies are not patient folk anymore. New Army has the tolerance of a t-shirt Texas fan. Jimbo could get pissed before he starts to feel like an Aggie.

Oh well, all conjecture at the moment.

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