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Some painful stuff right there.  I wonder what other teams have experienced it, and how often?

Off the top of my head, it happened to Auburn a couple years ago.  They beat UGA regular season--really smoked them--and them got beat just as badly, if not worse, by UGA in the SEC CG.  2017, I'm thinking.  

The one I'd guess most painful is Tennessee and LSU, 2001.  The Vols had won an NC just a couple seasons previous and were on a roll, had finally licked their Florida problem that year, and handily defeated LSU in the process.  A rematch with an emerging but still not elite LSU was all that stood in the way of going to the Orange Bowl to play Miami for an NC.  Their fans all brought oranges to Atlanta.  And then for good measure, LSU's starting QB Rohan Davey got hurt in the game.  This sent a backup named Mauck in, whose mobility was not something UTenn had prepared for, and a running QB was a novelty in a Fisher type offense back in those days.  There's no doubt in my mind Tennessee was the better team that year, but LSU stunned them and got to go to the Sugar Bowl, knocking TN out of the Orange in the process.  Heard more than one of their fans tell me that one really hurt.  

I agree in the sense that Texas had a specific problem with OU over the long term.  They "should" have done better overall against the Sooners.  You can't control a specific bad outcome in a given season, but overall you do control, year to year, your performance against a particular team you know stands in your way.  No reason Texas should've had some of those embarrassing losses to OU, and without some of those Texas does claim more conference hardware, possibly national too.

From a Sooner perspective, it seems like--if anything-- we should have beaten Texas more over the last 22 years (from 1999--Stoops' 1st season--to the present).
1999: #23 Texas, 4-2, beat NR OU, 3-1, 38-28.
2000: #10 OU, 4-0, beat #11 Texas, 63-14.
2001: #3 OU, 4-0, beat #5 Texas, 4-0, 14-3.
2002: #2 OU, 5-0, beat #3 Texas, 35-24.
2003: #1 OU. 5-0, beat #11 Texas, 4-1, 65-13.
2004: #2 OU, 4-0, beat #5 Texas, 4-0, 12-0.
2005: #2 Texas, 4-0, beat NR OU, 2-2, 45-12.
2006: #7 Texas, 4-1, beat #14 OU, 3-1, 28-10.
2007: #10 OU, 4-1, beat #19 Texas, 4-1, 28-21.
2008: #5 Texas, 5-0, beat #1 OU, 5-0, 45-35.
2009: #3 Texas, 5-0, beat #20 OU, 3-2, 16-13.
2010: #8 OU, 4-0, beat #21 Texas, 3-1, 28-20.
2011: #3 OU, 4-0, beat #11 Texas, 4-0, 55-17.
2012: #13 OU, 3-1, beat #15 Texas, 4-1, 63-21.
2013: NR Texas, 3-2, beat #12 OU, 5-0, 36-20.  Mack Brown got an easy win in his last season to finish 6-9 vs. Bob Stoops.
2014: #11 OU, 4-1, beat NR Texas, 31-26.
2015: NR Texas, 1-4, beat #10 OU, 4-0, 24-17.  Bob Stoops managed to lose to Charlie Strong's bad Texas team.
2016: #20 OU, 2-2, beat NR Texas, 2-2, 45-40.
2017: #12 OU, 4-1, beat NR Texas, 3-2, 29-24.
2018: #19 Texas, 4-1, beat #7 OU, 5-0, 48-45.
2018 CCG: #5 OU, 11-1, beat #19 Texas, 9-3, 37-27.
2019: #6 OU, 5-0, beat #11 Texas, 4-1, 34-27.
2020: NR OU, 1-2, beat #22 Texas, 2-1, 53-45 4OT.

OU's 15-8 W-L lead over this period is a little misleading for two reasons.  Those blowout wins in 2000, 2003, 2011, and 2012 made things seem worse than they were.  (And people tend to forget Texas' blowout win in 2005, which I think was the Horns' biggest in the series.)  Bob was 8-5 vs. Mack at that point, yet it seemed to many that he was doing much better than that.

The second reason is that, while OU has gone 7-3 since then, the games have nearly all been tough ones.  The biggest win was Texas 36-20 victory over an OU team that had beaten Notre Dame in South Bend and went on to beat Alabama in the Sugar Bowl.  To OU fans, it seems like we have had the significantly better team nearly every year in this second period, and yet we have struggled to pull out victories in games that very easily could have gone the other way.

All of the "upsets" except for last year were won by Texas.

the Sooners think that "magic" should get them wins even when the opponent is better

probably the fault of the Cornhuskers

the Sooners think that "magic" should get them wins even when the opponent is better

probably the fault of the Cornhuskers

Isn't everything?

We've all noted how back in the day, a good season one could relish was 11-1 with a major bowl win and top five finish.

Now for "elite teams", it's NC or bust.  One can count how many of those there are today, but it's 6-7-8-9 or so, and they can't all win it duh.

Obviously Clemson/Bama/OSU sort of headling that group, and OU is not far behind, and I know UGA fans are desparate.  And I don't mean the usual insane fans either.

I hate the way college football has gone down this path.  I've often cited the nationalization of the sport and the cynical 24/7 sports news cycle as major driving factors.

I also think the generational attitude shifts toward shorter attention spans and "what-have-you-done-for-me-lately" mindsets contribute to the problem.

Exactly.  Just gotta enjoy what we have, while we have it.

I highly doubt that in 20 years there will be anything left that resembles the college football game we have right now.  Maybe a lot sooner than that.

I've gotten readdicated to Da Braves because of playing in their fantasy baseball camp every January.  Our "cable" is satellite and included in the HOA so I have no real choice.  Something called Bally Sports now carries the Braves on either channel 646 or 649.  I still watch Them Dawgs (we don't do well with articles and pronouns).

I watched Max Fried spin a complete game shutout last night, complete games are almost a gone thing too.  I think that is the first one for the Braves this year.

I think I'm just getting old.  

We had a nice time today at the Arts Festival in the park, it was a bit humid and I spent some money on a handbag.  For the wife.  They had a grouping of food trucks doing serious business with rather high prices, I passed.





The booths stretched for over a mile mostly with artsy stuff, some of it rather creative I thought.