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Topic: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?

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utee94

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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #546 on: February 17, 2023, 05:07:59 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on February 17, 2023, 04:44:51 PM
so, the Horn's sched will be getting easier

I anticipate the SEC will go to a 9-game conference schedule and I'd be surprised if Texas changes its OOC scheduling philosophy.  
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #547 on: February 17, 2023, 05:16:34 PM »
I hope you're right, but I'm guessing 8 conference games is staying for a few more seasons
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #548 on: February 17, 2023, 05:33:40 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on February 17, 2023, 05:16:34 PM
I hope you're right, but I'm guessing 8 conference games is staying for a few more seasons
I don't think there's any way to work a 16-team conference schedule with only 8 conference games. They'd have to break up too many longstanding traditional rivalries.  They've already said they're not even considering using two divisions, so it's going to be some form of perma-rivals plus rotation. 
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #549 on: February 17, 2023, 05:54:38 PM »
there's obviously a way

we'll see. some pressure nationally to go to 9 games, but the SEC does as they please.
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #550 on: February 17, 2023, 05:56:34 PM »
Oh yeah, national pressure will have nothing to do with it.  The SEC don't care.

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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #551 on: February 17, 2023, 05:59:07 PM »
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #552 on: February 17, 2023, 11:07:19 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on February 17, 2023, 05:33:40 PM
I don't think there's any way to work a 16-team conference schedule with only 8 conference games. They'd have to break up too many longstanding traditional rivalries.  They've already said they're not even considering using two divisions, so it's going to be some form of perma-rivals plus rotation.
For example, Bama has at least 3 big, important rivals: Auburn, Tennessee, and LSU. They'd have to cut two of those if the SEC goes to an 8-game (1-7-7) schedule. That or the schedule would have to be bastardized into incoherence.
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #553 on: February 18, 2023, 10:07:51 AM »
Bama will blame Texas
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #554 on: February 18, 2023, 11:17:18 AM »
Quote from: CWSooner on February 17, 2023, 11:07:19 PM
For example, Bama has at least 3 big, important rivals: Auburn, Tennessee, and LSU. They'd have to cut two of those if the SEC goes to an 8-game (1-7-7) schedule. That or the schedule would have to be bastardized into incoherence.
Yup.  There's just no way it works without pissing off a TON of people, which is why I'm confident the 9-game schedule is on its way.


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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #555 on: February 18, 2023, 12:02:27 PM »
well, I'm pissed about the Cali twins joining the Big

along with a shit ton of people in the PAC

doesn't seem to be working
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #556 on: February 18, 2023, 12:39:07 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on February 18, 2023, 12:02:27 PM
well, I'm pissed about the Cali twins joining the Big

along with a shit ton of people in the PAC

doesn't seem to be working

Your conference already has a 9-game conference schedule and tons of money.  Everything is working exactly as your superiors intend.
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #557 on: February 18, 2023, 01:51:36 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on February 17, 2023, 11:07:19 PM
For example, Bama has at least 3 big, important rivals: Auburn, Tennessee, and LSU. They'd have to cut two of those if the SEC goes to an 8-game (1-7-7) schedule. That or the schedule would have to be bastardized into incoherence.

I could be wrong about this but I don't think Bama or its fans consider LSU a big important rival.  Not in the sense of AU or UT.  LSU (and fans) almost certainly care more about playing Bama than the other way around, although for any sort of traditionalist they're still not in the same realm as Ole Miss.  I suspect Alabama could take or leave LSU and wouldn't care much.  

The perma-rival schedule I saw that had us with Ole Miss, A&M, and Alabama is about as good as we could ask for.  I'll never enjoy losing AU as an annual game (the most objectively crazy series in the country this century, by far), but I wouldn't exactly want to trade Bama for them.  Same for Clanga, there's a ton of history there but I wouldn't swap Ole Miss for them.  So we get what we get, and if that's what we get I'd say that's as good as we could hope for.

Which is what makes me think it's almost certainly going to be one of the dumber models such as one that had LSU with OU.  The conference has a habit of making Baton Rouge feel like it got the middle finger.
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #558 on: February 18, 2023, 01:57:31 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on February 17, 2023, 11:51:18 AM
Div I-AA Opponents.


LSU
2022: Southern
2021: McNeese State
2020: N/A
2019: Northwestern State
2018: Southeastern Louisiana


Note: 2020 was the Covid year with all non-conference games cancelled.

Geez, I forgot how many piss-ant little schools there are in that state.  That's not even counting the ULL's, ULM's, Tech's, Tulanes....

Let me tell you how much LSU did not want to be playing Southern last year.  A lot.  That's how much.  

I hate our state legislature. 

One of my grandmother's cousins "served" in the House for years and years and I never saw a single kickback or benefit, so I hate them even more.  
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #559 on: February 18, 2023, 03:48:56 PM »
Quote from: MikeDeTiger on February 18, 2023, 01:51:36 PM
I could be wrong about this but I don't think Bama or its fans consider LSU a big important rival.  Not in the sense of AU or UT.  LSU (and fans) almost certainly care more about playing Bama than the other way around, although for any sort of traditionalist they're still not in the same realm as Ole Miss.  I suspect Alabama could take or leave LSU and wouldn't care much. 

The perma-rival schedule I saw that had us with Ole Miss, A&M, and Alabama is about as good as we could ask for. I'll never enjoy losing AU as an annual game (the most objectively crazy series in the country this century, by far), but I wouldn't exactly want to trade Bama for them.  Same for Clanga, there's a ton of history there but I wouldn't swap Ole Miss for them.  So we get what we get, and if that's what we get I'd say that's as good as we could hope for.

Which is what makes me think it's almost certainly going to be one of the dumber models such as one that had LSU with OU.  The conference has a habit of making Baton Rouge feel like it got the middle finger.

Since about 1995 or so, I've enjoyed watching Auburn - LSU more than any other game that doesn't involve my own team.  That is a crazy, awesome annual matchup, and I'd be sad to see it go.  BUT, the nice thing about the 3+6/6 schedule, is that you'd still play them 2/4 years.  Which isn't bad, if you think about it.  Compare that to the current SEC scheduling weirdness where the Ags have been members for 12 years and have played Georgia exactly as many times as current B12 member Texas has.

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