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Gigem · « **Reply #42 on:** September 16, 2021, 10:33:15 AM »

I looked back. It looks like A&M had 9 drafted during that time, and a couple of first rounders. Overall I'd say we've had some elite OL talent come through here over the last 10-12 years. We've also had some very good DL players in that time, including Von Miller and Myles Garret, who was the #1 pick.

Thumper · « **Reply #43 on:** September 17, 2021, 12:22:28 AM »

OL is evidently hard to evaluate. The Sooners have had numerous OLinemen drafted and quite a few were not rated at all because they didn't come to college as OLinement. A fairly recent example was Lane Johnson, currently the highest paid OT in the pros. He played QB(!) and TE in juco and came to OU as a TE. He couldn't make it there so they switched him to DL and then to OT. After a year playing RT and a year playing LT he became the fourth player selected in the NFL draft.
On the flip side they have had some 5* busts as well.
Sooner fans have learned to trust Bedenbaugh's evaluation far more than the recruiting sites.

Mr Tulip · « **Reply #44 on:** September 17, 2021, 10:42:28 AM »

In any high school recruiting class, there will be 5 or so obviously ready OL players. Everyone can see them, everyone recruits them, and most of them just sign with Alabama and get on with it.

The rest of us have to learn to evaluate teenage male bodies (stop being creepy!). We're going to need to see 16-17 year olds and decide which ones have the height and frame to support a developing musculature. Nature hasn't imbued most of them with their adult muscle fibers yet, and the ones who have probably maxed themselves out at the gym. Those are the 300lb inflexible guys who will never get any bigger.

So yeah. We're needing to see who can put on "good weight" and not get slow. Who has the flexibility in the hips? Who has the motor? Trying to predict these things while wondering how nature will turn a 17 year old boy into a 22 year old man is the deep voodoo.

Everyone's a tackle, until they aren't.

utee94 · « **Reply #45 on:** September 17, 2021, 10:45:33 AM »

Quote from: Mr Tulip on September 17, 2021, 10:42:28 AM

In any high school recruiting class, there will be 5 or so obviously ready OL players. Everyone can see them, everyone recruits them, and most of them just sign with Alabama and get on with it.

The rest of us have to learn to evaluate teenage male bodies (stop being creepy!). We're going to need to see 16-17 year olds and decide which ones have the height and frame to support a developing musculature. Nature hasn't imbued most of them with their adult muscle fibers yet, and the ones who have probably maxed themselves out at the gym. Those are the 300lb inflexible guys who will never get any bigger.

So yeah. We're needing to see who can put on "good weight" and not get slow. Who has the flexibility in the hips? Who has the motor? Trying to predict these things while wondering how nature will turn a 17 year old boy into a 22 year old man is the deep voodoo.

Everyone's a tackle, until they aren't.

Sure but this is true of all teams out there. And Texas does it consistently poorly, spanning over too many head coaches, OCs, and o-line coaches, to even name.

Other than "we're cursed" or Slick's infamous "Austin Malaise" is there any reason why Texas can't EVER have a good o-line? We've had a handful of good o-linemen over the past 15 years, but not one single good o-line.

longhorn320 · « **Reply #46 on:** September 17, 2021, 11:15:27 AM »

if you look at the details of our 2021 recruiting class which is ranked 15th

out of 23 recruits only 2 are OL

so maybe our recruiting emphasis is wrong

Mr Tulip · « **Reply #47 on:** September 17, 2021, 11:16:36 AM »

I really don't feel like Texas has missed that badly on their OL evaluations. I think they come to Texas as highly regarded talented high school seniors, and they leave as highly talented high school seniors. The lack of growth, skills-wise, almost seems deliberate.

I feel like Strong and Herman sort of talked reluctant OL coaches into coming. Neither was able to communicate a cohesive plan for their offense. Ti be fair, Herman wanted tOSU's offense, but didn't have the pieces.

I think Flood and Sark are on the same page. I'm guessing the Arky game showed them that page was a little less filled in than they'd hoped. If Sark is the guy I think he is, we'll get closer to aligning skill sets with Casey Thompson.

longhorn320 · « **Reply #48 on:** September 17, 2021, 11:22:23 AM »

I looked at Alabama and out of 26 recruits they only have 2 OL as well

longhorn320 · « **Reply #49 on:** September 17, 2021, 11:26:38 AM »

I still think the big factor in the ark game was our lack of a passing attack

if you let me continually play 8 men in the box I can shut down any team in the country

our def was gassed which translated into massive rushing for ark

Gigem · « **Reply #50 on:** September 18, 2021, 10:36:51 PM »

Our OL is very much in flux. Not a solid unit yet, very inconsistent.

I’m very concerned for next week. Ark looks solid on both lines, oline and dline. Our Dline has played good so far. The talent is there, they are still growing into their positions.

longhorn320 · « **Reply #51 on:** September 18, 2021, 11:56:51 PM »

Quote from: Gigem on September 18, 2021, 10:36:51 PM

Our OL is very much in flux. Not a solid unit yet, very inconsistent.

I’m very concerned for next week. Ark looks solid on both lines, oline and dline. Our Dline has played good so far. The talent is there, they are still growing into their positions.

you guys better be able to pass the ball

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