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Topic: Big XII Realignment

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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #196 on: September 08, 2021, 10:27:40 AM »
The only real WTF addition was UCF. Directional school with no history, way out in a coastal state, just a total "flash in the pan" program. 

I know that the geography is a little spread out, but at least exclude the coastal states. Now the door is open for San Diego St, Hawaii, E Carolina... they are going to have to add Air Force in order to fly all these teams around. 
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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #197 on: September 08, 2021, 03:10:05 PM »

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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #198 on: September 08, 2021, 07:08:36 PM »
Boise would please me quite a bit, now that I am a resident of the MTZ. Right now we only have four P5s, and they are all in the Pac South with USC and UCLA. So if BYU and Boise both get into the Big 12, then it increases the number of MTZ P5s by 50%; along with doubling the number that they had up through 2010. 


  • Colorado was the first to join a major Conference when it joined the Big 6 in 1947
  • Arizona and Arizona State joined the Pac 8 in 1978
  • Utah joined the Pac 10 in 2011, along with Colorado from the Big 12. 


That's it. Four teams. All in a division with the LA twins. So two more P5 teams would really spice things up a bit. Boise and BYU are the only ones that have any business being anywhere near the P5 stratosphere, and the Pac 12 doesn't want anything to do with either of them because of their academics. So the Big 12 is their only realistic P5 option.

That said, with regards to Boise I will believe it when I see it. 
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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #199 on: September 08, 2021, 07:18:13 PM »
Yeah I think it's a reach but I suppose ya never know.

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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #200 on: September 09, 2021, 10:08:32 AM »
just imagine the TV numbers Boise would bring
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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #201 on: September 09, 2021, 11:18:34 AM »
At 1 million people with rapid growth, they'd slot in behind the noobs, and ahead of the rubes. 
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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #202 on: September 09, 2021, 11:47:11 AM »
I for one am kinda proud of the Big 12

They arent just rolling over and going away

They are doing what it takes to survive

I say go for it
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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #203 on: September 09, 2021, 11:54:17 AM »
good for them
it will probably be a healthier league internally but obv not financially or competitively nationally
the playoff going to 12, they can get a team in that
they'll take another recruiting hit though

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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #204 on: September 09, 2021, 12:51:33 PM »
There is an interesting article on Sicem365 on projected revenue for the expanded Big 12.  The projected media rights are not as much as current but way above the AAC and even above the PAC12.  This is somewhat corroborated by CBS Sports:
"For the four schools invited to the Big 12, the move would be a giant step revenue-wise. American schools currently average $7 million in media rights revenue annually. Big 12 schools currently average $37 million annually.
Industry sources tell CBS Sports that the Big 12 lost at least 40% of its value with the departure of Texas and Oklahoma. However, the reconfigured Big 12 with four additions could earn $20 million-$25 million per season, softening the financial blow."
The Sicem365 article also mentions the expansion could include Boise and Memphis and says the B12 would retain it's P5 status and bowl tie-ins.
If these numbers are true, the Big 12 would be secure if not quite as rich.  

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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #205 on: September 10, 2021, 10:53:46 AM »
https://big12sports.com/news/2021/9/10/conference-big-12-extends-membership-invitations.aspx


Big 12 Extends Membership Invitations


he Big 12 Conference Board of Directors this morning voted to extend membership invitations to Brigham Young University, the University of Central Florida, the University of Cincinnati, and the University of Houston to join the Conference.
 
Today’s actions were in accordance with Big 12 Conference Bylaw 1.5.2.b.3 requiring an affirmative vote of a supermajority of Directors, and was approved unanimously by the eight continuing members.
 
As necessary, institutional Boards will be in session today to act on Big 12 Conference membership. Videoconference announcements with Big 12 Board of Directors Chairman and Texas Tech University President Lawrence Schovanec, Big 12 Commissioner Bob Bowlsby, and campus representatives are scheduled today at the following times:

Houston – 11:00 a.m. CT
BYU – 11:30 a.m. CT
UCF – 2:45 p.m. CT
Cincinnati – 3:30 p.m. CT

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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #206 on: September 10, 2021, 12:12:20 PM »
I'm interested in following the timeline on this.  It could be telling as far as how long UT and OU actually intend to stay in the B12.  I don't necessarily think we'll see them in the SEC next season, but I'm even more skeptical they're going to finish out the next several years of their current commitment to the B12. 

More importantly, are all these lame music and beer threads and the fascinating discussions of helicopters going to be in the SEC forum now?  Ugh.  

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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #207 on: September 10, 2021, 12:25:30 PM »
I'm interested in following the timeline on this.  It could be telling as far as how long UT and OU actually intend to stay in the B12.  I don't necessarily think we'll see them in the SEC next season, but I'm even more skeptical they're going to finish out the next several years of their current commitment to the B12. 

More importantly, are all these lame music and beer threads and the fascinating discussions of helicopters going to be in the SEC forum now?  Ugh. 
count on it

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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #208 on: September 10, 2021, 12:53:02 PM »
I'm interested in following the timeline on this.  It could be telling as far as how long UT and OU actually intend to stay in the B12.  I don't necessarily think we'll see them in the SEC next season, but I'm even more skeptical they're going to finish out the next several years of their current commitment to the B12. 

More importantly, are all these lame music and beer threads and the fascinating discussions of helicopters going to be in the SEC forum now?  Ugh. 
I completely expect Texas and OU to be playing football in the SEC in the Fall of 2022.

No other team that's left this conference in the past 11 years, has hung around for a second lame duck year.

And there are some very obvious reasons why even one lame duck season can cause damage to your athletic programs.  Nobody is going to be willing to expose their athletic programs to TWO years of that.


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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #209 on: September 10, 2021, 01:02:12 PM »
it's only money

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