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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #168 on: September 03, 2021, 05:24:57 PM »
Well two of the three that I wanted to see elevated are among the four that are rumored to be front runners. So that's not half bad. 
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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #169 on: September 03, 2021, 07:32:34 PM »
Well, it is happening.  All 4 schools are expected to join by Sept 10.  The Irate 8 has all the votes they need to approve the expansion whether or not OU and Texas approve.
ESPN just signed a media contract with the AAC so that will have to be redone.  Interesting to see how this affects the departure of OU/UT.
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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #170 on: September 03, 2021, 08:17:44 PM »
Most importantly, what will the divisions look like? 
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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #171 on: September 03, 2021, 08:33:55 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on September 03, 2021, 03:56:02 PM
A problem with Cincy is stadium size, and it's a bit hemmed in by buildings.  They could expand it at some expense, but I'm not sure how, and their attendance as yet doesn't really suggest they should.  They have had good bball teams.

I think UCF is akin to Georgia State, large enrollment, but many commuter/part time students.
I suspected as much. First thing they should do is dump the directional name. The name is everything.  Obviously University of Florida is taken as is Florida State.  Maybe Florida Tech?  Orlando University?  Or University of Orlando?  I don’t have a  better suggestion but it needs to be changed. 
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« Reply #172 on: September 03, 2021, 09:47:05 PM »
Ironically I just looked it up. UCF was originally Florida Tech. It was changed in the late 70’s. 
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« Reply #173 on: September 03, 2021, 09:56:43 PM »
Quote from: Thumper on September 03, 2021, 07:32:34 PM
Well, it is happening.  All 4 schools are expected to join by Sept 10.  The Irate 8 has all the votes they need to approve the expansion whether or not OU and Texas approve.
ESPN just signed a media contract with the AAC so that will have to be redone.  Interesting to see how this affects the departure of OU/UT.
It doesn't affect the departure date of TX-OU at all,  it was always going to be 2022.  It might affect the buyout, but that was never going to be more than about 40% either, so I don't think it really affects that very much.

From a personal standpoint, I have a lot of friends that went to Tech, TCU, and even Baylor, and there are several fans of oSu and KSU that I've met over the years, and I think this is the best possible outcome for them, so I'm happy on their behalf.
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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #174 on: September 03, 2021, 10:34:22 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on September 03, 2021, 08:17:44 PM
Most importantly, what will the divisions look like?
    
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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #175 on: September 03, 2021, 11:21:12 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on September 03, 2021, 09:56:43 PM
It doesn't affect the departure date of TX-OU at all,  it was always going to be 2022.  It might affect the buyout, but that was never going to be more than about 40% either, so I don't think it really affects that very much.

From a personal standpoint, I have a lot of friends that went to Tech, TCU, and even Baylor, and there are several fans of oSu and KSU that I've met over the years, and I think this is the best possible outcome for them, so I'm happy on their behalf.

I was thinking about the buyout and how ESPN/Fox views this expansion.  The 3 AAC schools have a GOR and reports are saying they will start playing in the B12 in 2023.  I have to think they will work a buyout as well and everyone will be in their new conferences in 2022 but new media agreements could get very weird.
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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #176 on: September 03, 2021, 11:21:49 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on September 03, 2021, 09:47:05 PM
Ironically I just looked it up. UCF was originally Florida Tech. It was changed in the late 70’s.
They should change it back.
Anything with "Central" in it sounds G5/FCS-ish.
And maybe the Big 12 should change its name too.  It's sort of a tarnished brand.  Might be better to start over.
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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #177 on: September 03, 2021, 11:56:51 PM »
It would be cool if they could change it to University of Florida - Orlando or UFO.
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« Reply #178 on: September 03, 2021, 11:59:27 PM »
Quote from: Thumper on September 03, 2021, 11:21:12 PM
I was thinking about the buyout and how ESPN/Fox views this expansion.  The 3 AAC schools have a GOR and reports are saying they will start playing in the B12 in 2023.  I have to think they will work a buyout as well and everyone will be in their new conferences in 2022 but new media agreements could get very weird.
Yup.  Right now everyone's legal team is making them say certain things to avoid unnecessary troubles.

But OU and Texas will be playing in the SEC in 2022/2023, and the newcomers to the B12 will be following suit.
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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #179 on: September 04, 2021, 12:01:47 AM »
Quote from: CWSooner on September 03, 2021, 11:21:49 PM
They should change it back.
Anything with "Central" in it sounds G5/FCS-ish.
And maybe the Big 12 should change its name too.  It's sort of a tarnished brand.  Might be better to start over.
The B12 is still a better brand than AAC, CUSA, MWC, MAC, or whatever else is out there.

Also, the B12 is the conference that has the tie-ins to the Cotton Bowl, Sugar Bowl, CFP, and other NYD bowls trough the post-season contracts.   If they abandon the name, they'll likely abandon the legal attachments that go along with it, which would be bad for them.
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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #180 on: September 04, 2021, 12:13:38 AM »
I think the bowl tie-ins are the most important part of keeping the Big 12.  The CCG and Sugar Bowl games alone were a big revenue generator for the conference.  I would also think the new Big 12 would be all for the 12 team playoff as they could get an automatic bid if those are given to conference champions.
I really wish the best for our old conference mates and I hope they are successful.
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Re: Big XII Realignment
« Reply #181 on: September 04, 2021, 12:37:13 AM »
How would you rank the 12 teams in the new Big 12, by the metric of "helmetiness"? 
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