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I went to the TAMU-LSU game in College Station in 1989.  I was dating an aggie girl and she invited me up for the weekend.  Ags won and we had a very good time that night.  The night before, too...

Would that be the Aggie you married, or you just got a thing for Aggies?  No judgment, I worked in College Station for a year in my mid-20's and I made the most of my time with the fem-aggs that I could.  I punched above my weight class but that was just because they were so starved for a real man with his own bottle of Tony Chacherie's.  

Their cheerleaders were kinda hairy though.  

Would that be the Aggie you married, or you just got a thing for Aggies?  No judgment, I worked in College Station for a year in my mid-20's and I made the most of my time with the fem-aggs that I could.  I punched above my weight class but that was just because they were so starved for a real man with his own bottle of Tony Chacherie's. 

Their cheerleaders were kinda hairy though. 

Different aggie girl.  I also dated a couple of Tech girls, and one that went to TWU.

And of course several Longhorns mixed in the bunch.

When it comes to cute girls, I don't discriminate based on educational institution.

Johnny Football was fun to watch, for sure.  Just not particularly good at math.  Or talking smack.

Texas A&M Conference Win% in SEC:  58%
Texas A&M Conference Win% in B12: 53%

My god we were really awful the last ~10 years in the Big 12.  About as awful as the 'horn's have been for the last ~10 years.  

Piss poor coaching, mismanagement of talent, and a myriad of other factors got us to that point.  

Not really.  Horns are at 56% the last 10 years, so Texas is actually closer to your "improved" performance in the SEC, than we are to your suckitude in the B12.

But the real key takeaway here, is that no Longhorn fan thinks the past ten years have been anything other than complete garbage.  While apparently, Johnny Football is proud of the ags' legacy in the B12.  So proud he seeks to denigrate the conference that regularly kicked the shit out of his school's team.

However, I'll certainly agree with your final sentence.  It's hard for me to imagine a worse stretch of coaching and talent development/management, than what we've seen at Texas, ever since Mack Brown decided to mail it in after the 2009 season.  Just disgusting.

Big difference between the Ags last ten years in the B12 and UT's last 10 and you know it even if you refuse to admit it.  The B12 has been so watered down it's a complete joke and look no further than UT/OU's unceremonious exit.  No Nebraska, no CU, no Mizzou, and Tech has not been the same since they canned Leach but hey they added a very mediocre WV and schizophrenic TCU.  Meanwhile UT is regularly losing to KU and TCU while suffering through losing seasons.  
As for JFF he never played in the Big 12 (he was on the team in 2011 but did not play).  There is no question our record has improved from our B12 days to our SEC days but it's not apples to oranges.  

56%, 53%, meh whatever.  Nothing to be proud about, just splitting hairs at this point anyways and arguing about who's the tallest midget.  

. . .  It's hard for me to imagine a worse stretch of coaching and talent development/management, than what we've seen at Texas, ever since Mack Brown decided to mail it in after the 2009 season.  Just disgusting.

Do you think Mack consciously mailed it in, or just got a little tired, just tired enough to be functioning at about 10% less effectiveness?
After losing the BCS NCG to Florida after the 2008 season, Bob Stoops went through a run of 8-5, 12-2, 10-3, 10-3, 11-2, 8-5.  Only twice did he have fewer than 3 losses. Some fans started playing the "pencil in the 3 losses" game.
The first 8-5 season he didn't have a place-kicker good enough to make chip-shot FGs.  Bad oversight that directly contributed to 4 of the losses.  He had some unsuccessful assistants, like--sad to say--Josh Heupel as OC.
Be fired 2-3 assistants, hired Lincoln Riley, re-emphasized recruiting, more or less righted the ship (with the exception of keeping Mikey as DC), and handed it over to Riley in good shape.
I say all that because I wonder if Mack might have done likewise at Texas had he not been forced out.
FWW, the standard Sooner view is that the problem at the end of Mack's tenure was the same UT old problem--BMDs butting into the management of the football program.
And the Austin Malaise, of course.

Do you think Mack consciously mailed it in, or just got a little tired, just tired enough to be functioning at about 10% less effectiveness?
After losing the BCS NCG to Florida after the 2008 season, Bob Stoops went through a run of 8-5, 12-2, 10-3, 10-3, 11-2, 8-5.  Only twice did he have fewer than 3 losses. Some fans started playing the "pencil in the 3 losses" game.
The first 8-5 season he didn't have a place-kicker good enough to make chip-shot FGs.  Bad oversight that directly contributed to 4 of the losses.  He had some unsuccessful assistants, like--sad to say--Josh Heupel as OC.
Be fired 2-3 assistants, hired Lincoln Riley, re-emphasized recruiting, more or less righted the ship (with the exception of keeping Mikey as DC), and handed it over to Riley in good shape.
I say all that because I wonder if Mack might have done likewise at Texas had he not been forced out.
FWW, the standard Sooner view is that the problem at the end of Mack's tenure was the same UT old problem--BMDs butting into the management of the football program.
And the Austin Malaise, of course.

Mack clearly lost his edge.  He was content to let his staff do more of the work.  He disengaged and spent a lot more time on the golf course-- that's all corroborated by multiple insiders.  And his records after 2009 really can't be compared to Stoops' records after 2008.   One losing season and not a 10-win season to be found. 

5-7
8-5
9-4
8-5

Firing Mack was the right thing to do, but Charlie Strong was a terrible hire, for sure.  And Tom Herman wasn't a good hire either.  

I have my doubts about Sarkisian but since nobody asked me for my input, this is where we're at.  He won't be any worse than Strong.  Hopefully he'll be better than Herman.