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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #56 on: August 03, 2023, 09:48:13 PM »
I expect them to challenge
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #57 on: August 04, 2023, 07:35:11 AM »
Yeah, with the money "on the table", I expect they already hired some firm to look at it.  
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #58 on: August 04, 2023, 08:15:21 AM »
at some point, the money you spend to break the contract is less than the money you gain by breaking it
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #59 on: August 04, 2023, 08:17:06 AM »
That would be part of the calculation of course, but I would "bet" FSU has retained a law firm to look at this.  For one thing, they could apply pressure to the ACC sufficient to modify the GoR without going to court over it as the ACC is looking at the same equation.

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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #60 on: August 04, 2023, 08:55:08 AM »
At the very bottom of the barrel, without making a single legal argument, Texas could have walked away from the Big 12, just said "sue us", then never ever paid the judgement since the Texas Legislature has to authorize payouts for judgements against state entities. That wouldn't ever actually happen. There was also the option of "contract performance" under which they skipped to the SEC, and told the Big 12 they were free to pocket the revenue for any Big 12 games Texas played in Austin - as per the contract. That would be "none".

In the end, it was easier to play out the deal. It let the SEC prepare their own schedules as well.

FSU is looking at sacrificing over $300million over the course of the contract relative to what they could be earning. I can only assume there's a vaporware understanding with other conferences to take them.
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #61 on: August 04, 2023, 09:07:17 AM »
I think we'll see something in the ACC fairly soon, probably rumors about negotiations.  The ACC itself wouldn't want to get embroiled in some court case they could lose, and at minimum would cost legal fees.  In such circumstances, large companies nearly always "settle".
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #62 on: August 04, 2023, 10:26:25 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 04, 2023, 08:15:21 AM
at some point, the money you spend to break the contract is less than the money you gain by breaking it
this is the seemingly inevitable outcome for the acc powers.

supposedly they’re alleging on twitter as of this morning now that the pac may stay together and sign a gor - several were leaving yday


https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1687459635098189824?s=46&t=-SC6UqqBHwMwAIElNB5qvw

along with a story on espn that az is gone 

which is why i believe everything and nothing about r/a.

i hope they survive the sport is better with them.  it was bad enough seeing the big 12 deteriorate - the decline of the acc and pac will be sad and seems unavoidable (ultimately) at this time.
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #63 on: August 04, 2023, 11:12:35 AM »
If the B1G and SEC want to redistribute their moneys to the other conferences to keep things equal, then nothing has to change any further.

But since that won't happen, further change is inevitable.  Any and every school with value above the mean for the B1G or SEC, will end up in the B1G or SEC.

Notre Dame is, of course, a wildcard.  
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #64 on: August 04, 2023, 11:32:00 AM »
nd will have to be leveraged in one way or another - that seems clear at this point - either by the $ or access and with a 12 team playoff it doesn’t appear as if it’s going to be via the latter.

as for the $, the media landscape seems volatile so who can say re: the future other than live fball continues to be a valuable commodity.
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #65 on: August 04, 2023, 01:17:31 PM »
Notre Dame is a fairly unassailable brand. There's no real reason for them to limit their options and affiliate with a conference. As long as the "big boys" keep answering their scheduling requests, they can create an a la carte schedule that makes them credible for the playoffs.
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #66 on: August 04, 2023, 01:28:38 PM »
Does realignment talk ever go away?
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #67 on: August 04, 2023, 04:19:05 PM »
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« Reply #69 on: August 04, 2023, 07:00:20 PM »
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