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Topic: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here

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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #182 on: August 28, 2022, 07:20:44 PM »
Ags like to talk about Texas getting all the calls.  That 2006 game is one where I'm still in disbelief at what the ags got away with.  So it goes, I guess.
That’s an easy one. OU owns the refs, even when they’re not playing. 

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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #183 on: August 28, 2022, 08:17:30 PM »
That’s an easy one. OU owns the refs, even when they’re not playing.
It must be the case that every team gets screwed by the refs more than its opponents do.
That's what all the fans think, anyway.
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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #184 on: August 28, 2022, 08:43:06 PM »
wait til you switch conferences

oh wait.....
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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #185 on: August 29, 2022, 10:54:54 AM »
Week 0 is done, now on to Week1.  Cupcake city, baby.

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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #186 on: August 30, 2022, 04:43:54 PM »
I wouldn't say that the Huskers had the game in had when they scored to go up 28-17, but they led in all the good stats, and an 11-point lead 6 minutes into the 3rd quarter is not to be sneezed at.

That onside kick was the critical event of the game. Nebraska basically did nothing after that.

I think that it killed a psychologically fragile team. That team is used to losing, and is especially used to losing close games late. After that failed kick, they "knew" that they were on their way to losing another one, even though they still had an 11-point lead.

Just my opinion, of course.

i thought the neb qb got exposed once he got off the opening script.
& that d - 500 yards of offense surrendered to a south car castoff qb & very meh skill talent.
neb didn't run it very well either.

the onside kick was possibly the dumbest coaching decision i have ever seen but i'm not convinced they don't lose the game anyway.  not to mention the most predictable outcome - pat fitzerald is a wonderful coach.  of course his no-talent, high iq, dentist in training playing special teams was in perfect position lol'g as he calmly scooped that ball up.

one bad team beat another in a game i'd never watch if it weren't stand alone week 0 but it was entertaining.

frost comes off as arrogant & stupid, a devastating combination.

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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #188 on: August 30, 2022, 05:14:58 PM »

frost comes off as arrogant & stupid, a devastating combination.
That was Tom Herman's thing, too.  Despite some decent seasons, it's ultimately what got him fired.

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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #189 on: August 30, 2022, 06:50:35 PM »
Coachspeak is your friend.

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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #191 on: September 02, 2022, 02:20:57 PM »
. . . frost comes off as arrogant & stupid, a devastating combination.
I heard a national radio guy say that the most damning thing about that was not Frost calling for the onside kick but that no assistant coach spoke up to suggest that it would be unwise.
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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #192 on: September 02, 2022, 05:06:11 PM »
all the assistant coaches are also desperate for a win

and they were all aware of how the defense was not playing
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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #193 on: September 02, 2022, 05:13:42 PM »
Then, is the failure to make good halftime adjustments a better culprit then the onside kick?
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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #194 on: September 02, 2022, 05:25:19 PM »
hard to tell, behind at the half by 3, behind at the end of the game by 3.

Held 11 point leads in both halves 

Northwestern scored the last two TDs in each half
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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #195 on: September 02, 2022, 06:20:44 PM »
On Thursday’s edition of a new video podcast, Urban’s Takes with Tim May, the legendary head coach addressed several different topics, including what he thought about Frost’s decision to kick an onside kick while his team was up 28-17 on the Northwestern Wildcats and made it very clear that Meyer does not believe that call was the reason the Huskers lost the game.


The segment in question was started by his co-host, Tim May talking about the decision and making it clear that he didn’t agree with it. In doing so, May made several of the same comments that Cornhuskers fans worldwide have been making for about a week. The onside kick put the Huskers’ defense under the gun. He added that it killed momentum for a team that needed it.

However, when Meyer began opining on the issue, he made it clear quickly that he had a different take. While he started admitting that Frost is “struggling,” he added that he’s got a proven track record when taking a struggling program in UCF and taking them to what the Golden Knights faithful consider a national championship.

“I’ve known him a long time, he’s a national champion as a player, I mean the guy’s a tough guy. I sat in meetings with him and he’s a very smart guy. I’ve never been one of those guys that questions a head coach because I’ve sat there.”

After laying out his opening statement, Meyer then went into detail about why he doesn’t find fault with the Nebraska football head coach’s choice despite being up 28-17.



The former Ohio State head coach then laid out then on his playsheet, there were three situations that might call for “risk” at the level of an onside kick. The first was “to win a game.” The second situation would be to “get back into a game.”

The ex-Jacksonville Jaguars coach pointed to a fake punt that he ran in a 2016 game when he was trying to get back into a contest. He also pointed out that the fake punt he tried back then did not work.

The third and final reason that Meyer said he would take a risk like an onside kick was what he called a “checkmate move.”

He then explained that he talked to his team every year about being in a prize fight in a boxing match, and they have their opponent on the ropes. That would be the time to take that swing and get the knockout or the “checkmate.”

This certainly falls in line with what the Nebraska football head coach said after the game about “being aggressive,” and it definitely underlines that not everybody thought the onside kick was such an egregious decision.

“The program is struggling, their single score games they’re not very good at, he saw an opportunity from video; and maybe I think I heard him say that earlier in the game he saw it and it wasn’t executed.”


Meyer then expanded on the idea that there was plenty of game left and that the defense could not stop Northwestern for most of the rest of the game. He added the offense stopped scoring as well.

It’s clear from Meyer’s words that he doesn’t think the onside kick should have been a backbreaker. Whether this is a coach who had already said he wouldn’t criticize coaches or wheat he really thought at the time is going to be up for debate.
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