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« Reply #658 on: October 20, 2022, 05:40:30 AM »
I don’t hardly follow baseball at all. I may watch a little now that the Astros are in the post season. 

I don’t understand OAM’s rant on the Dodgers losing in the first round. Who gives a shit what their regular season record is?  In my book they’d be just as likely to lose to whatever team they faced in the post season. 

My understanding is that you take the best 4 teams of each league, and from there you end up with each Division champion for the WS. I confess I don’t really know how the wild card games work. 

Basically I’m reading his argument that the Dodgers should be in the WS because they had the best record?  Newsflash: they had 5 games to win 3. 

If the Dodgers were the better team “ on those days” they would have won. End of story. 

As an aside I think ole miss was the last team in the College Baseball playoff last season and ended up winning the whole damn thing. 

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« Reply #659 on: October 20, 2022, 08:06:12 AM »
A playoff with this many teams produces a "playoff champion".  It's not going to provide for a championship by the "best team" in most years.  We all know this, and live with it.

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« Reply #660 on: October 20, 2022, 10:16:10 AM »
A playoff with this many teams produces a "playoff champion".  It's not going to provide for a championship by the "best team" in most years.  We all know this, and live with it.
from another fan whose team lost in the playoffs

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« Reply #661 on: October 20, 2022, 12:11:37 PM »
A playoff with this many teams produces a "playoff champion".  It's not going to provide for a championship by the "best team" in most years.  We all know this, and live with it.
I’m sorry, but I just don’t understand. Aren’t all champions “playoff champions”?  

If two teams play each other, multiple games in the post season, wouldn’t the winner of the series be the best team?  

just because your team doesn’t make it past the first round doesn’t seem like a legitimate reason to not like the format. There are plenty of examples of NFL teams that finish with great records and lose their first playoff game, often to a team they beat soundly in the regular season. 

Again, I’m not much of a baseball fan, but as an outsider I just don’t understand the problem nor argument about the playoff. I guess maybe it would help to know the history and how things were done in the past. 

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« Reply #662 on: October 20, 2022, 12:38:59 PM »
The Astros are fortunate Im not their manager cause if I was every time Judge comes up with a runner on he gets walked
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« Reply #663 on: October 20, 2022, 02:55:25 PM »
Not all champions are determined via a playoff of course.  The vast majority today are.  And the regular season result usually is used to seeding amd byes.

I'm fine with smaller playoffs, how baseball does it is fine with me.  I thought the Braves would beat Philly and lose to LA, so it's hardly a big deal with my expectations (I do troll a bit at times).

I recall many years back the Dawgs in basketball were their usual woeful selves and somehow won the SEC Championship series, they won more conference games in the playoff than in the regular season.  (That was the tornado year also.)  It was exciting for the fans, the top SEC teams still made the NCAA Tournament, as did the Dawgs (quickly eliminated).  Playoffs are very popular and generate a lot of money, so they are simply the way things are done, it's not going to change, whining about such things is pointless.

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« Reply #664 on: October 20, 2022, 03:19:02 PM »
Not all champions are determined via a playoff of course.  The vast majority today are.  And the regular season result usually is used to seeding amd byes.

I'm fine with smaller playoffs, how baseball does it is fine with me.  I thought the Braves would beat Philly and lose to LA, so it's hardly a big deal with my expectations (I do troll a bit at times).

I recall many years back the Dawgs in basketball were their usual woeful selves and somehow won the SEC Championship series, they won more conference games in the playoff than in the regular season.  (That was the tornado year also.)  It was exciting for the fans, the top SEC teams still made the NCAA Tournament, as did the Dawgs (quickly eliminated).  Playoffs are very popular and generate a lot of money, so they are simply the way things are done, it's not going to change, whining about such things is pointless.
seems to me the current playoff system needs to lose 2 wildcard teams per league but other then that its the fairest way of determining a champion

and just because it generates money does not make it a bad system
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« Reply #665 on: October 20, 2022, 03:26:03 PM »
Whether it's good or bad is just one's opinion.  I just go with the flow.  I expect CFB is going to expand fairly soonish, the money angle is too rich.  Were it up to me, and it isn't, I'd stop at six.

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« Reply #666 on: October 20, 2022, 08:05:11 PM »
Re: maybe nothing since everyone is yelling at each other.  They will never get rid of teams.  They need to make the first round Bo5 and the rest Bo7.  I don’t remember who said it on some podcast (so it might be a joeschmo and not someone with the mathematical background to make the following statement) but luck tends to even itself out in Bo7 so the better team typically will win. :shrug: Go Phils, you shouldn’t be ins!

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« Reply #667 on: October 21, 2022, 08:17:23 AM »
Meh, I just follow along, it's out of my control.  I enjoy watching baseball, so I do.  I'll enjoy CFB still after they mangle the playoffs.

I don't see anything inherently wrong with crowing a playoff champion, or calling it the "World Series" either.

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« Reply #668 on: October 21, 2022, 08:29:19 AM »
not inherently wrong

just wrong

adding the wildcards is just a money grab
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« Reply #669 on: October 21, 2022, 08:46:14 AM »
Sure, money and "interest".  If your team has a WC shot, you're more interested.

CFB avoided this, largely, for it's history, I think that's about to change.

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« Reply #670 on: October 21, 2022, 09:03:25 AM »
I don’t hardly follow baseball at all. I may watch a little now that the Astros are in the post season.

I don’t understand OAM’s rant on the Dodgers losing in the first round. Who gives a shit what their regular season record is?  In my book they’d be just as likely to lose to whatever team they faced in the post season.

My understanding is that you take the best 4 teams of each league, and from there you end up with each Division champion for the WS. I confess I don’t really know how the wild card games work.

Basically I’m reading his argument that the Dodgers should be in the WS because they had the best record?  Newsflash: they had 5 games to win 3.

If the Dodgers were the better team “ on those days” they would have won. End of story.

As an aside I think ole miss was the last team in the College Baseball playoff last season and ended up winning the whole damn thing.
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Re: ~2022 MLB Thread~
« Reply #671 on: October 21, 2022, 09:06:34 AM »
He expressed his opinion on the matter.  I don't see that he misread anything, but perhaps others have.

 

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