~2022 MLB Thread~

[MarqHusker]

We have not seen a Starting Pitcher win three world series games since 1968 and only three since WWII.
Most occurred pre 1920, not surprisingly. 

Big unit won 3 in 2001, one from the pen.

Of course a WS has to go 7 these days to have a chance to sew a guy three times.  Big Matty won three in 1905 in a five game series, beneficiary of rainout postponements .

[MarqHusker]

I think post season success has more to do with luck than roster construction strategy.   80s Cards are a good example.   By all accounts their weakest WS team won, and their two strongest lost, all 7 game series.   Substantially similar 'build'   speed, little power, two arms and a fireman.  

[OrangeAfroMan]

The idea that a team can build for the postseason or is built for the postseason is horse shit.  It's something that the talking heads say and everyone nods their head, thinking "yeah, that makes sense." 

But no one ever presents examples for this idea, nor noting teams that aren't built for the postseason and lose in an upset.  
They want to sweep the fact that the postseason is very nearly random under the rug.  I don't know why, but that's what they're trying to do.

[FearlessF]

We have not seen a Starting Pitcher win three world series games since 1968 and only three since WWII.
Most occurred pre 1920, not surprisingly.

how many have won 2?

how many have won 2 and lost the series?

how many have had 2 pitchers win 2 each?  there's yer winner

[MrNubbz]

Down at Progressive Field to watch the good guys get one in the win column - now I'm 8-0 there 

[Cincydawg]

The idea that a team can build for the postseason or is built for the postseason is horse shit. 

And THAT is not remotely what anyone here is claiming of course.

[FearlessF]

I might be

I'm saying go get the elite pitching staff

load up on Cy Young winning arms

Houston has Justin Verlander - Houston has done pretty well in the playoffs

it's tougher in baseball because players aren't as consistent from one season to the next

yes, luck is a factor, but some teams are better suited for a 5 game series against another high quality team than other

a GM and owner can try to craft a roster that is built for a 5 game series vs a .600 team as opposed to winning a bunch of games vs a bunch of .400 teams

those teams have the luxury of paying a tax to stock an already good roster

[Cincydawg]

I doubt GM consciously thinks "I'm building for this or that" except to win.  At times, a team MIGHT end up suited to do well in 162 and less well in the post season.

One key over 162 is to crush the substandard teams, the kind you won't see in a playoff.

[FearlessF]

I doubt GM consciously thinks "I'm building for this or that" except to win.  At times, a team MIGHT end up suited to do well in 162 and less well in the post season.

I'd guess the GM of the Dodgers or Astros who has been to the playoffs most of the past ten seasons is bored with the reg season and is thinking what do I need to build into my roster to win the World Series

[Cincydawg]

They might be thinking about how they can strengthen their post season chances, sure.  I don't think they intended to build a 162 team that would not win a WS.

The Braves did that in the 90s with the one exception year.  They had killer starting pitching and a rather shallow pen.  Now they are the reverse of that.

[Cincydawg]

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[longhorn320]

I might be

I'm saying go get the elite pitching staff

load up on Cy Young winning arms

Houston has Justin Verlander - Houston has done pretty well in the playoffs

it's tougher in baseball because players aren't as consistent from one season to the next

yes, luck is a factor, but some teams are better suited for a 5 game series against another high quality team than other

a GM and owner can try to craft a roster that is built for a 5 game series vs a .600 team as opposed to winning a bunch of games vs a bunch of .400 teams

those teams have the luxury of paying a tax to stock an already good roster

Houston does well in the playoffs because of their bull pin

[FearlessF]

Verlander doesn't hurt

[longhorn320]

Verlander doesn't hurt

youre right but a lot of games are won and lost from the 7th inning on