~2021 MLB Thread~

[longhorn320]

Fan INTEREST, not just fans in seats.

ok I was assuming increase in fan interest meant an increase in fans not just existing fans becoming more interested

[longhorn320]

well, MR. Texan
As you know, I just stir the pot and let you argue with Cincydawg

Im very aware

[OrangeAfroMan]

If they could  generate more revenue with no fans they would.

They do.  All the time.
They decimated the minor leagues to save a buck.  They beheaded the draft to save a buck.  They do everything and anything they can to make money without adding 1 additonal fan AND they expand playoffs to make another buck.

Fan interest of "baseball fans" doesn't wane....but these expanded playoffs aren't for "baseball fans."  And no, it doesn't matter, but it's still true. 

I just wish they'd crown the champion after the long-ass regular season, then have whatever goofy, statistically-cartoonish playoff you want, for entertainment.

And if I may make a larger leap, for those of you old fogies who lament how things are nowadays and complain how it's changed so much from the good ole days.....this is part of it.  Not the genereic expanding of playoffs and interleague play and all that, but the freakin' 12th-best team getting to hoist the World Champions trophy.
Every explansion of a playoff is closer and closer to 'everyone gets a trophy' in professional sports. 
More eyeballs > rewarding excellence
Same with college football.

The World Series used to make sense, back in 1937.  Leagues that dind't intermingle each had champions with the best record.  It was a best-of-9 series.  In today's setup, a season doesn't need to be 162 games.  Why not make it 100?  Why not make it 10? 
Oh yeah.....money.

[longhorn320]

The Astros just didnt have the pitching needed for an extended series

Congrats to the Braves.  They have a very good team.

One thing about sports

theres always next year

[Brutus Buckeye]

And if I may make a larger leap, for those of you old fogies who lament how things are nowadays and complain how it's changed so much from the good ole days.....this is part of it.

You are the only one here that is sounding like that. 

[Cincydawg]

If you don't like the baseball post season, fine with me.  If you like it, fine with me.  I don't see the point in getting aroused by whatever it is.  It's a common theme for pro sports.  And it increases fan interest, which increases revenue.

The best team doesn't always win any playoff.

Is that 12 team CFB playoff really going to happen or was it fluff?

[FearlessF]

oh, I'm old and feel that way

just not venting at the moment

gotta conserve energy to stir the Texan's pot

[OrangeAfroMan]

You are the only one here that is sounding like that.

Let's talk poltics and social issues then...

[OrangeAfroMan]

I'm just sharing on a web forum where people share things.....it's not keeping me up at night, lol.

[FearlessF]

Let's talk poltics and social issues then...

leave the social issues out of it 

[Brutus Buckeye]

I'm just sharing on a web forum where people share things.....it's not keeping me up at night, lol.

Yeesh, don't get your panties in a bunch. 

Let's talk poltics and social issues then...

Why do you hate progress? 

[betarhoalphadelta]

Fan interest of "baseball fans" doesn't wane....but these expanded playoffs aren't for "baseball fans."  And no, it doesn't matter, but it's still true. 

This sounds to me like the No True Scotsman fallacy. 

I.e. no real baseball fan would like these playoffs, therefore anyone who likes these playoffs isn't a real baseball fan. 

And if I may make a larger leap, for those of you old fogies who lament how things are nowadays and complain how it's changed so much from the good ole days.....this is part of it.  Not the genereic expanding of playoffs and interleague play and all that, but the freakin' 12th-best team getting to hoist the World Champions trophy.
Every explansion of a playoff is closer and closer to 'everyone gets a trophy' in professional sports. 
More eyeballs > rewarding excellence

I'd argue otherwise. It's not "everyone gets a trophy" if only one team at the end gets a trophy. 

You may not agree that the team that hoisted the trophy deserves it because you disagree that they should have been allowed into the playoff field at all. But they beat all the other playoff teams they faced, fair and square, in best of 7 rounds of a tournament. 

They're being rewarded for results on the field... in the playoff. 
 

The World Series used to make sense, back in 1937.  Leagues that dind't intermingle each had champions with the best record.  It was a best-of-9 series.  In today's setup, a season doesn't need to be 162 games.  Why not make it 100?  Why not make it 10? 
Oh yeah.....money.

I'm with you on the season not needing to be 162 games. Hell, you could make it a head-to-head NL vs AL world series instead of playoffs and you STILL don't need 162 games. 

But yeah, having this many playoff teams certainly diminishes the importance of regular season games even more than having a 162-game season does.

[longhorn320]

if you are a baseball fan you love having a 162 game season

you also love the fact that if your team wont win its division they still might get a shot

if you are not a baseball fan then the season is too long and there are too many teams is the playoff

i just feel that we are hearing some non baseball fans rendering their opinion on a subject they really couldnt care less about which means very little to me a big baseball fan

[Cincydawg]

I enjoy baseball, obviously, more this year than most.  There is an aspect of the game I really get.  

One aspect I found a bit odd was the Braves had HFA over the Dodgers, who won 106 games, but were the WC team.  The Braves only lost one home game in the playoffs, to Houston, I think they did have some HFA in baseball, some of it may be sleeping in one's own bed.

But, yeah, if you're not a fan at all, your opinion on how they do it is somewhat irrelevant to me.