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Topic: ~2020 NFL Season Thread~

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Mdot21

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Re: ~2020 NFL Season Thread~
« Reply #322 on: November 25, 2020, 01:17:26 PM »
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Bucs still probably gonna win 10-11 games and make playoffs, but that Arians/Brady marriage is NOT looking like it’s on good footing. 

Arians is a dolt. He’s asking his 43 year old QB to take too many 5 and 7 step drops and go deep. Brady is taking too many hits. He’s 43. Not 23. And to me it looks like his body has hit that midseason wall. Even when New England didn’t have the best OL’s, they still got the ball out quick and put an emphasis on rushing the ball as well to limit the hits Brady took.

Arians screwed up royally. He should’ve did what the Broncos did when Manning came over. Manning installed his offense and concepts/terminology and everyone had to get on board with him. Arians did the reverse. Dumb move. Should’ve let Brady take control of the offense and do what he’s done in NE for 20 years with a little bit of Tampa old offense sprinkled in.

Belichik is missing Brady right now, and Brady is missing Belichik. They should’ve finished their careers together. They were a match made in heaven. 

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Re: ~2020 NFL Season Thread~
« Reply #323 on: November 25, 2020, 01:26:04 PM »
Can't blame Arians for Monday,Brady completing underneath stuff fine.The situation demanded a deep throw - that Tom just didn't have it then/there.I caught the last 3-4 minutes
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« Reply #324 on: November 25, 2020, 01:31:29 PM »
Can't blame Arians for Monday,Brady completing underneath stuff fine.The situation demanded a deep throw - that Tom just didn't have it then/there.I caught the last 3-4 minutes
Arians is a piss poor coach. Have no idea how he got this "rep" as a good coach. He's not.

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« Reply #325 on: November 25, 2020, 01:40:07 PM »
Arians was the first Cardinals head coach since Norm Barry in 1925 to record at least nine wins in his first season, with a record of 10-6 for 2013.

The Cardinals finished the 2014 season with an 11–5 record and were the #5 seed in the NFC. The 11 wins tied a Cardinals franchise record for most wins in a season. Arians led the Cardinals to a 9–1 start, best in the NFL, but injuries to starting quarterback Carson Palmer (who was 6–0 as the starter) and backup Drew Stanton, (who was 5–3 as starter) led to the Seattle Seahawks claiming the divisional title with a 12–4 record. Roughly half the team was put on injured reserve between week 8 and week 17. The injury plagued Cardinals were eliminated by the Carolina Panthers in the Wild Card round of the playoffs, 27–16. Following the season, Arians was named AP Head Coach of the Year for the second time in three seasons.

On February 23, 2015, the Cardinals announced a new four-year deal with Arians which would keep him with the Cardinals through the 2018 season.[21] After starting 3–0 for a second consecutive season, in 2015, Arians led the Cardinals to a franchise record in season wins, ending the season with a 13–3 record. The Cardinals defeated the Green Bay Packers 26-20 in overtime in the Divisional round of the playoffs, Arians' first playoff win as a head coach.
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« Reply #326 on: November 25, 2020, 02:00:45 PM »
Arians was the first Cardinals head coach since Norm Barry in 1925 to record at least nine wins in his first season, with a record of 10-6 for 2013.

The Cardinals finished the 2014 season with an 11–5 record and were the #5 seed in the NFC. The 11 wins tied a Cardinals franchise record for most wins in a season. Arians led the Cardinals to a 9–1 start, best in the NFL, but injuries to starting quarterback Carson Palmer (who was 6–0 as the starter) and backup Drew Stanton, (who was 5–3 as starter) led to the Seattle Seahawks claiming the divisional title with a 12–4 record. Roughly half the team was put on injured reserve between week 8 and week 17. The injury plagued Cardinals were eliminated by the Carolina Panthers in the Wild Card round of the playoffs, 27–16. Following the season, Arians was named AP Head Coach of the Year for the second time in three seasons.

On February 23, 2015, the Cardinals announced a new four-year deal with Arians which would keep him with the Cardinals through the 2018 season.[21] After starting 3–0 for a second consecutive season, in 2015, Arians led the Cardinals to a franchise record in season wins, ending the season with a 13–3 record. The Cardinals defeated the Green Bay Packers 26-20 in overtime in the Divisional round of the playoffs, Arians' first playoff win as a head coach.

Yeah, and Ken Wisenhut took Arizona to a Super Bowl and NFC Championship in back to back years. Wayne Fontes took the Lions to an NFC Championship. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut.

Arians has never won a thing in the NFL. He is 1-2 in the playoffs. Every QB he's had in year 1 as a HC/OC has lead the NFL in turnovers. He had two good years in Arizona- and won nothing in those years. His last two years in Arizona were 7-8-1 and 8-8. His first year in Tampa was 7-9. He is the definition of mediocre head coach. This is part of why the NFL is so bad when it comes to coaching. They just keep hiring these lame retreads who have proven over long careers they cannot do it- instead of taking a flier on a young up and comer.

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Re: ~2020 NFL Season Thread~
« Reply #327 on: November 25, 2020, 02:07:09 PM »
Brady had time and made that throw - bad game.Arians isn't to blame for Monday Night,hell Tom Terrific walked off with out acknowledgements,nods or handshakes to opponents
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Re: ~2020 NFL Season Thread~
« Reply #328 on: November 25, 2020, 03:09:56 PM »
Yeah, Brady was terrible on Monday.

Arians is fine, but he and Brady together don't make sense.  He wants his QB to hold the ball, challenge vertically, but take hits.  That's literally the antetheses of how Brady plays


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« Reply #329 on: November 25, 2020, 03:19:27 PM »
Yeah, Brady was terrible on Monday.

Arians is fine, but he and Brady together don't make sense.  He wants his QB to hold the ball, challenge vertically, but take hits.  That's literally the antetheses of how Brady plays
You shouldn’t be asking a 43 year old QB to take 7 step drops that many times a game and push the ball up the field and take the hits. That’s just asking for trouble. Human body doesn’t recover the same way at 43 as it does at 33 or 23. At 23 I could go out drinking all night, no sleep and function the next day. By 33, if I tried that- I’d be feeling like I was dying. Brady 13 years ago with Moss did the vertical, take the hits in the pocket thing for a couple years there- and one of the years he got seriously injured- but that’s really the only time he’s done it in his career because it’s really the only time he’s had those kind of receivers with Moss and Stallworth. 

Brady’s reads/progressions were low to hi in NE, now they are complete opposite. It’s a whole new way, new personnel, new terminology, new system, and zero offseason to get it all on the same page.

Should’ve adapted to him, like Broncos did with Peyton. 

Brady is ducking, you can tell he doesn’t want to get hit. He’s just chucking balls to get rid of them to avoid taking the hits. Change the offense and go with the quick stuff and the tempo and let him run his offense and they’ll be just fine. Scotty Miller needs to get more reps. He’s disappeared from their offense and he was a big part.

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Re: ~2020 NFL Season Thread~
« Reply #330 on: November 25, 2020, 03:29:05 PM »
Brady is ducking, you can tell he doesn’t want to get hit. He’s just chucking balls to get rid of them to avoid taking the hits. Change the offense and go with the quick stuff and the tempo and let him run his offense and they’ll be just fine. Scotty Miller needs to get more reps. He’s disappeared from their offense and he was a big part.
hah, so now he's playing like 90% of the QBs in the league
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« Reply #331 on: November 25, 2020, 03:32:41 PM »
hah, so now he's playing like 90% of the QBs in the league
Guy was slow as dirt in his 20s. He’s 43 and even slower now. He can’t move at all to get away from the pressure. If he’s pressured- it’s over. 

Doesn’t have the escapability to get away from pressure like a Wilson or Mahomes and throw on the run, or the youth to stand in the pocket and fire deep and take the hits like a Burrow or Herbert. Which- we just saw what happened to Burrow taking all those hits. Guy lead the NFL in 5&7 step drop backs by a lot- on a bad team- and his season is over and his knee is mangled. 

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Re: ~2020 NFL Season Thread~
« Reply #332 on: November 25, 2020, 03:36:52 PM »
Good Points but Tom choose his poison :c023:
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Re: ~2020 NFL Season Thread~
« Reply #333 on: November 25, 2020, 04:55:35 PM »
Arians has also chosen.  He could change his poison and hold backs and TEs in to max protect and use shorter patterns to protect Brady like has worked so well in the past.

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« Reply #334 on: November 25, 2020, 04:59:18 PM »
Maybe but he may need a back out there to loosen up coverage
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« Reply #335 on: November 25, 2020, 05:03:42 PM »
Tom loves throwing to the backs.  Sometimes after they've helped with pass pro
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