~2017 NFL Thread~

[rook119]

this just in....

Case Keenum is pretty good and the Viking's  defense is solid

Vikings arguably have the best No. 1-2 WR combo in the NFL. There are some advanced metrics guys who have shown that the WRs have bailed Keenum out an abnormal number of times. However props to Keenum though, who's finally taking advantage of a good offense to work with. 
I remember watching the Lions-Vikings game. The Vikings WRs were wide freaking open while Stafford had to thread passes into WRs who were blanketed all game. 
I'd try to keep Keenum because he works well there but I not sure if I would go over Glennon money to keep him. 

[Mdot21]

I remember watching the Lions-Vikings game. The Vikings WRs were wide freaking open while Stafford had to thread passes into WRs who were blanketed all game.

it's like Stafford has to play out of his mind or the Lions have no chance. There are even times when he does and it's still not enough.
His talent is ridiculous but they'll never win anything with him unless they fire Caldwell and get him some help.

[FearlessF]

Vikings arguably have the best No. 1-2 WR combo in the NFL.  Theilen is good, but....  Huh???


I'd try to keep Keenum because he works well there but I not sure if I would go over Glennon money to keep him.  I wouldn't pay an unreasoanable amount, but he's worth more than Teddy or most backup QBs.

[ELA]

Wow, just saw the Gronk cheap shot.  That better he a multi game suspension.  Rest of the regular season wouldn't be outrageous.  That is probably the dirtiest hit I've ever seen in an NFL game.

[Mdot21]

Wow, just saw the Gronk cheap shot.  That better he a multi game suspension.  Rest of the regular season wouldn't be outrageous.  That is probably the dirtiest hit I've ever seen in an NFL game.

I wouldn't go that far. Rest of season? 
Absolute filthy cheap shot though, and Gronk should have to pay a hefty fine and be suspended 1 game. 2 max. He doesn't have a history of this stuff, which they take into account. If this was like Burfict- who has a pattern of history then I'd say rest of year.
But yeah, it was terrible and Gronkowski should be ashamed. I saw Belichik apologize to the other coach and say it was bullshit. 

[ELA]

That's worse than anything I've ever seen Suh or Burfict or Harrison do.  By a long shot.  Not even remotely part of the play.

[Mdot21]

That's worse than anything I've ever seen Suh or Burfict or Harrison do.  By a long shot.  Not even remotely part of the play.

Those guys all had a loooong history of dirty play. NFL takes your history into acct when they dole out punishment and fines. 
Yeah, it was real bad. Not sure I'd say it's anything worse than Suh. He stomped out a guy. On Thanksgiving. He did something kinda similar to Cutler. Suh is an amazing player but he's maybe the dirtiest player of his era.
I'll be shocked if Gronk isn't suspended 1-2 games. He deserves at least 1. Maybe even 2.

[ELA]

Those guys all had a loooong history of dirty play. NFL takes your history into acct when they dole out punishment and fines.
Yeah, it was real bad. Not sure I'd say it's anything worse than Suh. He stomped out a guy. On Thanksgiving. He did something kinda similar to Cutler. Suh is an amazing player but he's maybe the dirtiest player of his era.
I'll be shocked if Gronk isn't suspended 1-2 games. He deserves at least 1. Maybe even 2.

He stomped on a leg I think?
Three things that are the major no nos.  Extremely late hits, intent to injure plays and blows to the head.  This is the first one I can think of that checks all three boxes.

[FearlessF]

wasn't much of a stomp


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaojAiK-8JU

[Mdot21]

Giants fire McAdoo and will bench Geno Smith and go back to Eli as the QB. If I'm Eli I tell them thanks but no thanks. Lol.

[ELA]

Ah, didn't realize Steelers-Patriots play in two weeks.  Yeah, no way Goodell was going to let that be more than 1 game.

Obviously diving at a guys head well after to play with the intent to injure him is about 1/4 as bad as not liking the footballs fully inflated.

[Mdot21]

Gronk suspended 1 game by the NFL for the cheap shot on the rookie CB of the Bills Tre'Davious White.

[ELA]

No clue how players can keep going after seeing Shazier.  I have never seen anything like that.

[Mdot21]

No clue how players can keep going after seeing Shazier.  I have never seen anything like that.

That was gut wrenching to see. I pray to god he's ok. Seems like there are more injuries in the NFL than ever. These guys are all just so big and so strong and so fast, the game has never been more stacked with more great freakish athletes than it is now and when they collide bad things happen.