~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~

[betarhoalphadelta]

Re: end of game:

What about shortening the shot clock to 24 seconds for the final 5 minutes of play (and overtime).

It's a small change, but might make the trailing team avoid fouls longer as the end approaches,  knowing they have more possessions left. 

[Kris61]

I guess I could be persuaded to change the penalty to 2 shots and the ball after every 5th foul.  I don’t think I’d make the punishment any steeper than that.

[ELA]

As much a part of the problem as fouling is the "defense" of the team with the lead.  It's like teams are so scared of fouling, they just start giving up baskets late in the game, which allows the trailing team to continue to score at a quick rate, and keeps the game within reach.  I don't get this over-fear of the foul by teams leading.  If you actually play defense and run more clock, and force tougher shots, that's worth possibly fouling, compared to giving teams a quick, easy layup.  Hell, I'd rather foul than give a quick easy layup.

[PSUinNC]

Curious if anyone is watching the NIT and paying attention to the experimental rules.  Not a fan of the quarters, but I like the extended 3pt line and the shot clock resetting to 20 after an offensive rebound.  Not sure I'm seeing much with regards to the wider paint area.  

[Brutus Buckeye]

So are the Leos gonna be able to knock off the Utes in the NIT Final? 

[medinabuckeye1]

So are the Leos gonna be able to knock off the Utes in the NIT Final?

Even though @ELA doesn't think it means anything, I just want to point out that the NIT Championship will be won by a major conference team this year (unless Utah beats PSU in which case the question of whether or not the PAC is a "major conference" will be relevant).  

[ELA]

I mean, it's relevant that once again it will be won by a team that wasn't even on the bubble

[Brutus Buckeye]

I suppose that the vast majority of College Basketball games that are played during any given season don't really "matter" in the grand scheme of things. 

[Brutus Buckeye]

There aren't very many teams that get an opportunity to finish their season with a W though. The four post-season tournament champions as well as maybe a couple of Ivy League schools that don't qualify for their 4-team Conference Tourney. That's about it. 

[Anonymous Coward]

“Too steep a cost to even TRY.”  The more you post about this the more it sounds like you just want the team that’s losing to quit so you don’t have to be bothered to watch it.  I mean why not give each coach a stick with a white flag on it to wave as a sign to end the game?

I wasn't writing about trying to win. That was an economy of words thing. I meant for it to be obvious that "try" regarded trying to intentionally foul.

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes, it can make the end of games tedious.  But when the strategy works the pay off to me is always worth it.  Again, if this rule were implemented you, as a Michigan fan, would have been denied the Trey Burke shot against Kansas in 2013 and ensuing run and Jordan Poole shot and ensuing run this year.

Those two shots and memories aren’t worth all the foul fests you’ve had to sit through that just delayed inevitable endings?

I realize that. But including it clouds the point. We are talking about making basketball better to watch in general, rather than better for one of our teams, right? And besides that, even if such a rule change would theoretically eliminate the potential for one set of legendary wins, it's incomplete to not acknowledge that it would also facilitate other legendary wins to replace them.

[mcwterps1]

Well, there goes my dream of a good year next year .

[847badgerfan]

Well, there goes my dream of a good year next year .

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[ELA]

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I think he's referencing the news in the 2018-19 thread.  Jackson going pro with an agent, Cowan transferring.

With everyone coming back, I would have picked Maryland 2nd in the conference, behind UM.  Now, who knows.  If Fernando goes pro too (and he's a much better NBA prospect than Jackson) they probably miss the tourney again.