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utee94 · « **Reply #1750 on:** March 31, 2022, 04:27:35 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on March 31, 2022, 04:23:10 PM

As I note, IF they repositioned combat troops from around Kyiv, they did scale back combat operations in that region. I am fairly sure they replaced better troops with second tier troops dug in on the defensive not trying to gain ground, but they are obviously still using artillery at the same pace. They just aren't attacking on the ground (perhaps).

It's slight of hand, or tongue, but technically could be true.

As I note, I disagree with your assessment. If the activities in Kyiv are resulting in more dead Ukrainians than before, then they most certainly have NOT scaled back combat operations. It's obvious, to me. Very cut and dried.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #1751 on:** March 31, 2022, 06:54:44 PM »

(51) Satellite images show Russia building defenses to protect military positions northwest of Kyiv (cnn.com)

This makes sense to me.

utee94 · « **Reply #1752 on:** March 31, 2022, 06:59:39 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on March 31, 2022, 06:54:44 PM

(51) Satellite images show Russia building defenses to protect military positions northwest of Kyiv (cnn.com)

This makes sense to me.

Well sure. They've been unable to advance, and dickface putin isn't about to give up. That's about their only option.

utee94 · « **Reply #1753 on:** April 01, 2022, 08:43:45 AM »

I continue to be fascinated by the internet and social media aspects of this war. This is really the first time it's been so broadly accessible, and so used, by the parties engaged in the conflict.

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1509739238174208012?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1509739238174208012%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.surlyhorns.com%2Fboard%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FKyivIndependent%2Fstatus%2F1509739238174208012

Cincydawg · « **Reply #1754 on:** April 01, 2022, 08:50:34 AM »

I'd like to know how much access a typical Muscovite has to the internet. I appreciate that many would view our version of the news as fake news and accept their version, but it gets harder to see it their way I think.

utee94 · « **Reply #1755 on:** April 01, 2022, 08:50:54 AM »

Ukrainian helicopters launched a counter-offensive into Russian territory and hit an oil depot in the Russian border town of Belgorod. Speculation that this is the first attack on Russian or Soviet soil since WW2.

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1509763703901761556?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1509768294533935119%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.surlyhorns.com%2Fboard%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fralee85%2Fstatus%2F1509768294533935119%3Fs%3D2126t%3DzIOyvDrLWw7tV3LfvIlnlA

Temp430 · « **Reply #1756 on:** April 01, 2022, 08:56:07 AM »

Ukraine is denying any knowledge of the above. Maybe the Russians were afraid the oil would fall into Ukrainian hands?

utee94 · « **Reply #1757 on:** April 01, 2022, 09:00:00 AM »

Quote from: Temp430 on April 01, 2022, 08:56:07 AM

Ukraine is denying any knowledge of the above. Maybe the Russians were afraid the oil would fall into Ukrainian hands?

Could be?

It's not the typical MO for a Russian false flag, those are usually something heinous like blowing up a school or hospital and then blaming it on the enemy. Of course at this point, the Russians are verified to have already blown up hundreds of hospitals and schools, so that type of false flag can't really work for them.

Early speculation was that Russians themselves just somehow bungled something and blew themselves up, we've seen plenty of evidence of that happening as well over the past month. But several video clips now show helicopters clearly firing rockets at the facility.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #1758 on:** April 01, 2022, 09:04:43 AM »

I doubt there was any chance that fuel would get confiscated by Ukranians. There is some chance it was sabotage, even by Russians, or simple inadvertent error. I don't know if the video showing helicopters firing at something means they were firing at this target, maybe.

utee94 · « **Reply #1759 on:** April 01, 2022, 09:07:47 AM »

Multiple angles of the same strike. But it is curious that the Russians have willingly allowed the video to get out. Perhaps they intend to use it as a reason to blame Ukraine and defer peace negotiations. But that seems unnecessary, since their peace negotiations have all been an obvious sham this entire time, anyway.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #1760 on:** April 01, 2022, 09:40:24 AM »

Quote from: utee94 on April 01, 2022, 08:43:45 AM

I continue to be fascinated by the internet and social media aspects of this war. This is really the first time it's been so broadly accessible, and so used, by the parties engaged in the conflict.

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1509739238174208012?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1509739238174208012%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.surlyhorns.com%2Fboard%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FKyivIndependent%2Fstatus%2F1509739238174208012

4 million rubel is what? 50 cents?

Temp430 · « **Reply #1761 on:** April 01, 2022, 09:41:23 AM »

I'm sure we've all heard the rumors of infighting between VP Harris and the White House. No idea if it's true or not. I just hope Harris is being super thoroughly briefed daily or more frequently because Biden looks old and she could be President at any time. She might have to deal with Putin escalating the conflict in Ukraine.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #1762 on:** April 01, 2022, 09:46:07 AM »

I have a notion neither she nor Biden are any more than a show piece, real decisions are made by others.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #1763 on:** April 01, 2022, 09:57:10 AM »

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