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utee94

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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1736 on: March 31, 2022, 12:50:35 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 31, 2022, 11:29:37 AM
Duh, they want the Donbas region and a land bridge, so that is where they will focus while causing destruction in other areas but staying on the defensive.

I don't think Ukranian forces can do much offensively against resistance.  Pinpricks, and they need to be cautious about getting sucked into a killing zone.

Well, there are some things they can do.  Dividing the Russian army into north and south and forcing them to go the long way through Russia and Belarus when they want to reposition troops, is going to cause supply line and reactionary problems for the Russians.


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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1737 on: March 31, 2022, 12:58:12 PM »
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1738 on: March 31, 2022, 01:02:59 PM »
The key to Russia's Ukraine problems is the lack of air superiority
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« Reply #1739 on: March 31, 2022, 01:04:17 PM »
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« Reply #1740 on: March 31, 2022, 01:08:12 PM »
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1741 on: March 31, 2022, 01:11:17 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on February 28, 2022, 11:01:13 AM
I would agree too, but you never know what someone might do once backed into a corner and also…accidents, mistakes and miscalculations can happen.

US and USSR/Russia were minutes away from nuclear exchange in 1980, 1983, and 1995 bc of mistake/accident.
Did you recently opine we are closer now than any time in the Cold War including Cuba?

I don't recall being minutes away in the 80s, but maybe so.
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1742 on: March 31, 2022, 01:14:15 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 31, 2022, 01:11:17 PM
Did you recently opine we are closer now than any time in the Cold War including Cuba?

I don't recall being minutes away in the 80s, but maybe so.
I think Mdot is getting his news from the National Inquirer 
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« Reply #1743 on: March 31, 2022, 01:18:45 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 31, 2022, 01:08:12 PM
So, over a month since they claimed to be pulling back from Kyiv.
And they still aren't actually pulling back military operations.  Just repositioning some troops, and shelling harder than they ever have before.


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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1744 on: March 31, 2022, 02:22:56 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on March 31, 2022, 01:14:15 PM
I think Mdot is getting his news from the National Inquirer
Nah, I don't watch MSNBC.
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« Reply #1745 on: March 31, 2022, 02:36:16 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on March 31, 2022, 02:22:56 PM
Nah, I don't watch MSNBC.
ok just checking
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1746 on: March 31, 2022, 02:47:33 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on March 31, 2022, 01:18:45 PM
And they still aren't actually pulling back military operations.  Just repositioning some troops, and shelling harder than they ever have before.
What does repositioning mean?  They well could be shifting troops east and south, right?  And as a result they could focus almost entirely on artillery in the Kyiv region, staying on the defensive with fewer bodies.
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1747 on: March 31, 2022, 04:20:47 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 31, 2022, 02:47:33 PM
What does repositioning mean?  They well could be shifting troops east and south, right?  And as a result they could focus almost entirely on artillery in the Kyiv region, staying on the defensive with fewer bodies.

Repositioning means moving.  They are certainly doing this, it's witnessed and verifiable.  To what tactical or strategic end?  Nobody but the Russians could tell you.

The only facts are 1) they stated they were going to scale back military operations in Kyiv and 2) they are shelling more than ever.

So statement 1) was yet another lie.
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« Reply #1748 on: March 31, 2022, 04:21:24 PM »
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1749 on: March 31, 2022, 04:23:10 PM »
As I note, IF they repositioned combat troops from around Kyiv, they did scale back combat operations in that region.  I am fairly sure they replaced better troops with second tier troops dug in on the defensive not trying to gain ground, but they are obviously still using artillery at the same pace.  They just aren't attacking on the ground (perhaps).

It's slight of hand, or tongue, but technically could be true.
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