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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1722 on: March 30, 2022, 11:52:21 PM »
so its possible the mines were put there by the Ukraines
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1724 on: March 31, 2022, 07:55:15 AM »
The Kremlin is calling up another 134,500 conscripts between April 1st and July 15th.  The Russian Ministry of Defense says the new conscripts "will not be sent to any hot spots," and all those called up last Spring will be sent home.
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1725 on: March 31, 2022, 08:46:37 AM »
What is to keep Russia from sitting back and pounding Ukranian cities until they cry uncle?  Would they at some point?

Economic collapse?  Putin going away?  

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« Reply #1726 on: March 31, 2022, 09:03:08 AM »
Sure.  Troop losses.  Economic collapse.  Forced regime change, although sadly I think that's wishful thinking.  Nobody can get close enough.

Eventually they'll run out of rockets/shells/ammunition.  Russian arms factories are already shutting down for lack of subcomponents and raw materials, and they rely on global supply chains to bring in much of that, they don't manufacture all of the subcomponents in-country.  China could fill some of that gap but not all of it.  And as you see from the global microchip shortages causing massive shortfalls in the production of computers, telephones, and automobiles, missing just one small $3 microcontroller from Taiwan or the Philippines can halt an entire production line of $100,000 vehicles.  Russia is using up munitions at a rapid rate, and it'll take them years to replenish their stocks, if ever.


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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1727 on: March 31, 2022, 09:20:46 AM »
If they simply dig in along defensible lines, they could keep up artillery barrages for a long time.  Dumb shells are not hard to make.  This seems to be the plan, we don't hear about any substantive ground being gained by Russian forces.  Ukraine might be gaining some ground in places because Russians have simply pulled back to higher ground or across a river.  This way you limit casualties on your side but cause increasing destruction of cities.

Then this grinds on and on and on ...

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« Reply #1728 on: March 31, 2022, 10:38:37 AM »

Germany says they are going to prosecute their citizens who appear to support Russia in the war. Seems a bit f***king crazy to me, but whatevs. 

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« Reply #1729 on: March 31, 2022, 10:51:33 AM »
Germany says they are going to prosecute their citizens who appear to support Russia in the war. Seems a bit f***king crazy to me, but whatevs.
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« Reply #1730 on: March 31, 2022, 10:58:02 AM »
Germany will prosecute anyone who displays the "Z" symbol in support of Russia

They have a habit of doing shit like this
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« Reply #1731 on: March 31, 2022, 11:16:35 AM »
If they simply dig in along defensible lines, they could keep up artillery barrages for a long time.  Dumb shells are not hard to make.  This seems to be the plan, we don't hear about any substantive ground being gained by Russian forces.  Ukraine might be gaining some ground in places because Russians have simply pulled back to higher ground or across a river.  This way you limit casualties on your side but cause increasing destruction of cities.

Then this grinds on and on and on ...
Their supply lines are shot on anything to the west.  They'd have to retreat well to the east in order to do something like this.

Even then, their factories are unlikely to keep up with demand. They're losing equipment to destruction or abandonment at an alarming rate, far more than any other similar invasion in modern history. And they can't rebuild it.  That decay started with the original sanctions that kicked in back in 2014 and it'll be multiplied 100x now due not only to sanctions but to the problems in the global supply chain that are unrelated.

In a lot of ways, this really could be the last gasp of a dying superpower.



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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1734 on: March 31, 2022, 11:29:37 AM »
Duh, they want the Donbas region and a land bridge, so that is where they will focus while causing destruction in other areas but staying on the defensive.

I don't think Ukranian forces can do much offensively against resistance.  Pinpricks, and they need to be cautious about getting sucked into a killing zone.

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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1735 on: March 31, 2022, 12:37:57 PM »
Russian soldiers sabotaging own efforts in Ukraine, UK spy chief says (cnbc.com)

To the extent this is true, the Russians could be in a world of hurt, and this could end it if it becomes widely spread.

 

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