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Hawkinole

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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1358 on: March 20, 2022, 02:09:44 AM »
So we hear about Russia and China hacking us and this and that..........are we doing it back at them?  As effectively?  Do we not hear about it because it looks bad? 

I'd like weekly stories about how different sectors of Russia's society is going haywire, due to American hackers.
I'm afraid we're not doing it.
I am taking precautions at my business to avoid disruption. I have not heard of major hacks against the U.S. during the conflict. There have been hacks of Russian news services to place truthful information on them. If we are not subject of big attacks we do not want to attack by cyber and risk big attacks.

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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1359 on: March 20, 2022, 08:14:08 AM »
If the US is hacking others, it wouldn't be advertised.  The US is obviously more vulnerable because our economy is so computerized, so "we" likely spend more on defense, public and private, than most other countries.  It is thought Israel has been hacking Iran for some years now.

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« Reply #1360 on: March 20, 2022, 08:44:49 AM »
Isreal is thought to be very good at cyber stuff
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« Reply #1361 on: March 20, 2022, 08:45:35 AM »
Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko says Putin is 'in better shape than ever' and 'a completely sane, healthy person' (msn.com)
Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko says Putin is 'in better shape than ever' and 'a completely sane, healthy person' (msn.com)
This article, and Lukashenko saying Putin is completely sane, is like Dick Vitale predicting Iowa is going to the Final Four in 2022. Putin/USSR/Russian Federation was eliminated in the round of 64.
sane people can make poor choices
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« Reply #1362 on: March 20, 2022, 10:30:33 AM »
Russia seems not to be able to "gain ground" any more, maybe they get some in bits and pieces, and have resolved merely to subject Ukraine to more and more damage, I surmise they think that will cause Ukrainians to quit lest they get bombed into oblivion.  I suspect this is wrong.  It could possibly influence Ukranian negotiators to be more willing to take harsher terms I suppose in return for a cease fire and stand in place and quit bombing.  Maybe.

Russia seems to have dug a rather vast hole they can't get out of.

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« Reply #1363 on: March 20, 2022, 10:59:37 AM »


Russia seems to have dug a rather vast hole they can't get out of.

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« Reply #1364 on: March 20, 2022, 11:07:05 AM »
Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko says Putin is 'in better shape than ever' and 'a completely sane, healthy person' (msn.com)
Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko says Putin is 'in better shape than ever' and 'a completely sane, healthy person' (msn.com)
This article, and Lukashenko saying Putin is completely sane, is like Dick Vitale predicting Iowa is going to the Final Four in 2022. Putin/USSR/Russian Federation was eliminated in the round of 64.
A stable genius, one might say?
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« Reply #1366 on: March 20, 2022, 03:04:27 PM »
Zelenskyy getting some pushback from Israeli officials over his zoom speech to the Knesset. People really need to stop comparing sh*t to the holocaust and every strongman "bad guy" to Hitler. It's ignorant and lazy and cheap. Beyond ignorant and lazy and cheap, really.


https://twitter.com/AmySpiro/status/1505587153836904452?s=20&t=fyrSA0FtVC1RYgh0A5n5Ig

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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1367 on: March 20, 2022, 03:06:13 PM »
What specifically did he say to minimize the Holocaust?  Quotes?

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« Reply #1368 on: March 20, 2022, 03:19:31 PM »
What specifically did he say to minimize the Holocaust?  Quotes?

Zelensky compares the current war in Ukraine to the Holocaust, saying that "our people are now wandering the world and looking for a place the same way that you once wandered."

Zelensky keeps up Holocaust analogies, referencing bombing of Babi Yar, saying Russia is using Nazi terminology, referencing "the final solution."


Zelensky, as he has in every speech to foreign parliaments, criticizes Israel for not providing enough support -- not providing military aid.

"You have to ask yourselves these questions, and live with the answers to these questions."


Zelensky says that Ukrainians helped Jews during the Holocaust, and many Ukrainians are among The Righteous Among the Nations.

"The people of Israel now have a choice to make."


Apparently, a lot of Israeli officials also were not thrilled with Zelenskyy not mentioning or referencing his own Jewish heritage or family even once in his speech to the Knesset, and also his/Ukraine's complete white-washing of Stepan Bandera- a Ukrainian extreme right-wing ultra-nationalist Nazi collaborator who was responsible for the deaths of thousands of Jews in Ukraine. 

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« Reply #1369 on: March 20, 2022, 03:21:02 PM »
He's simply trying to pinpoint as many countries as he can into actually helping his country.  Every attempt isn't going to be perfect, he's grasping at every possible straw.
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« Reply #1370 on: March 20, 2022, 03:24:03 PM »
He's simply trying to pinpoint as many countries as he can into actually helping his country.  Every attempt isn't going to be perfect, he's grasping at every possible straw.
he's been getting plenty of help. 

the only way he can actually beat Russia is if other countries get involved in that war directly. not gonna happen.

best they can do is fight the russians as hard as they can and hold them off for as long as they can in order to get a better deal when it comes to negotiation time. there is zero way in which they win this war, they'll have to negotiate their way out of it.

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« Reply #1371 on: March 20, 2022, 03:30:14 PM »
he's been getting plenty of help.

the only way he can actually beat Russia is if other countries get involved in that war directly. not gonna happen.

best they can do is fight the russians as hard as they can and hold them off for as long as they can in order to get a better deal when it comes to negotiation time. there is zero way in which they win this war, they'll have to negotiate their way out of it.
Right, but this is what he's grasping at.

I think he just might want his people to stop being killed, huh?
All the murdered women and children probably understand the NATO thing, right?  They get it.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2022, 03:42:34 PM by OrangeAfroMan »
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