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OrangeAfroMan

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« Reply #1344 on: March 19, 2022, 07:56:49 PM »
So how many non-NATO countries can Russia invade before we DO something?
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1345 on: March 19, 2022, 07:59:08 PM »
What should we do?
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« Reply #1346 on: March 19, 2022, 08:01:18 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 19, 2022, 07:56:49 PM
So how many non-NATO countries can Russia invade before we DO something?
Again, you do realize that we're doing things, right? 

Pretty significant economic sanctions, multinational companies ceasing all operations in Russia, turning them into a diplomatic pariah nearly worldwide...

Now, maybe you say that's not enough? What is it that you're proposing that we do, and what are your prediction for the outcome if we do what you want?
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« Reply #1347 on: March 19, 2022, 09:00:54 PM »
I think we're doing the right thing AND I think Putin can do whatever he wants. 
I'm kind of playing devil's advocate here, because this was an unprovoked invasion and there's no guarantee it ends here (except for the difficulty Russia seems to be having, which makes it more likely it's a one-off for the foreseeable future).
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1348 on: March 19, 2022, 09:09:23 PM »
Oh, never mind.
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« Reply #1349 on: March 19, 2022, 09:16:59 PM »
I'm pointing out that this 'we can't attack Russia because it's just Ukraine' is interesting.  What if Russia invaded Japan?  Ireland?  A country with oil?  

I just think the attitude here would be different.  
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« Reply #1350 on: March 19, 2022, 09:27:51 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 19, 2022, 09:16:59 PM
I'm pointing out that this 'we can't attack Russia because it's just Ukraine' is interesting.  What if Russia invaded Japan?  Ireland?  A country with oil? 

I just think the attitude here would be different. 
Its a matter of just how much do you want to live

How much do you want society as we know it to exist

Pretty easy to talk tough until you look death in the eye

There is a line I just hope Russia doesnt cross it
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« Reply #1351 on: March 19, 2022, 09:59:11 PM »
Seems pretty pathetic that the whole world can be held hostage by 1 man.  I don't think Russia proper would start a nuke war.  If it's 1 guy who would, it seems like a good idea to erase that guy off the planet.  
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« Reply #1352 on: March 19, 2022, 10:08:43 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 19, 2022, 09:59:11 PM
Seems pretty pathetic that the whole world can be held hostage by 1 man.  I don't think Russia proper would start a nuke war.  If it's 1 guy who would, it seems like a good idea to erase that guy off the planet. 

well we would beam him up but our transporter is broken
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« Reply #1353 on: March 19, 2022, 10:11:52 PM »
So we hear about Russia and China hacking us and this and that..........are we doing it back at them?  As effectively?  Do we not hear about it because it looks bad? 

I'd like weekly stories about how different sectors of Russia's society is going haywire, due to American hackers.
I'm afraid we're not doing it.
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« Reply #1354 on: March 19, 2022, 10:39:15 PM »
I wonder how many food tasters Putin has.

Wonder what they are paid.
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« Reply #1355 on: March 19, 2022, 11:03:14 PM »
might be paid nothing

not gonna live long enuff to spend it anyway
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1356 on: March 20, 2022, 01:18:07 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on March 19, 2022, 01:46:39 PM
Ummmm...

a) it is a war.

b) NO US President would risk nukes going off in Manhattan or LA for Ukraine. Not one. Not even the current idiot in office. Even if the chance is 1% Putin would do that- or even less than 1% - not a risk any President can take. ABM's are for the most part worthless crap that have zero shot at stopping an ICBM loaded with nuclear warheads.
This is not what I envisioned in my prior post about enjoying the back and forth, because what you just said is purely political garbage. 
I recognize in a later post you castigate Bush, not by name, by policy. Cut out the political garbage from your posts. Biden, whatever his weaknesses in joining Trump's withdrawal from Afghanistan has been masterful in almost all his involvement with the Ukrainian situation.
That said, what I just said shouldn't be said here. So knock it off, and return to civil discourse.
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1357 on: March 20, 2022, 02:04:53 AM »
Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko says Putin is 'in better shape than ever' and 'a completely sane, healthy person' (msn.com)
Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko says Putin is 'in better shape than ever' and 'a completely sane, healthy person' (msn.com)
This article, and Lukashenko saying Putin is completely sane, is like Dick Vitale predicting Iowa is going to the Final Four in 2022. Putin/USSR/Russian Federation was eliminated in the round of 64.
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