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utee94

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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1134 on: March 14, 2022, 07:32:12 PM »
serious question here, you're very knowledgeable about China- would it even be possible to sanction the crap out of China? seems like we are way to interlinked/dependent on China. wouldn't sanctioning the crap out of China probably just tank the economy here?

IMO, yes, you're exactly right about this.  I don't think there's much we can do, in the short term.  We're just far too deep to avoid significant amounts of fallout.

But it goes both ways. They can't just abuse the US and the West, either.  They've spent more than a half-century waging this economic war against us, but for it to work, for them to master us, they still must be able to sell into our markets.

For better or worse, we're inextricably linked.

I will say there are many VERY large American companies that have updated their approach to Risk Analysis over the past two years, especially as it relates to their critical supply chains.  Moves are underway from a lot of these companies to reduce their reliance on China.  It'll take years to dig out from underneath it all, but it hasn't gone unnoticed.

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« Reply #1135 on: March 14, 2022, 07:46:55 PM »
this economics professor had a pretty clever idea to try to help end this war...have EU agree to pay Russian deserters $100,000 a pop and give them residency/citizenship in EU states. Russia already kinda sucked for your average person before that economy got sanctioned into the Stone Age. With the sanctions and the economy tanking? Man, it's got to really suck now. 

I bet a lot of Russian soldiers would be tempted to take that offer. Get $100k and live in a much better country and not have to fight in a war that many of them probably didn't even want in the first place. Lot of ethnic Russians and Russian speakers in Ukraine, they have a shared history and are East Slavs- probably has to be a little bit weird to a lot of them to even be fighting there.


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« Reply #1136 on: March 14, 2022, 08:06:13 PM »
I think it's a great idea, only hesitation is, if Mother Russia can track the deserters and then punish their families that remain in-country.

But for at least some portion of their soldiers, it would probably work.

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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1137 on: March 14, 2022, 08:11:38 PM »
They'd mostly have family in Russia they would not want to leave to the tender mercies.

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« Reply #1138 on: March 14, 2022, 08:21:17 PM »
I bet they'd do it for $10,000.  

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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1139 on: March 14, 2022, 08:25:56 PM »
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1140 on: March 14, 2022, 09:24:56 PM »
Saudi Arabian dude who is most likely a prince or a butt-buddy of a prince and is getting funding from a prince- has made an offer to buy Chelsea Football Club for $3.5 billion from Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich. Russia oligarch: BAD. Saudi oligarch: GOOOOD. 

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« Reply #1143 on: March 15, 2022, 01:03:34 AM »
Our media and govt also would have made her life a living hell, if she went against their leftist globalist narrative during a live broadcast. 
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« Reply #1144 on: March 15, 2022, 06:51:11 AM »
Our media and govt also would have made her life a living hell, if she went against their leftist globalist narrative during a live broadcast.
someone like that would just get made fun of or dismissed here. maybe harassed a bit. Over there? sheesh....jailed, or worse.

although I will say, US treatment of and it's war on whistle blowers (starting since the Obama administration) and publishers like Julian Assange is extremely worrisome.

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« Reply #1145 on: March 15, 2022, 06:56:52 AM »

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« Reply #1146 on: March 15, 2022, 07:25:34 AM »
someone like that would just get made fun of or dismissed here. maybe harassed a bit. Over there? sheesh....jailed, or worse.

although I will say, US treatment of and it's war on whistle blowers (starting since the Obama administration) and publishers like Julian Assange is extremely worrisome.
At the very least they would get "cancelled" by the woke twitter mob/Fro types; lose their job and have their name dragged through the mud in the media for a week. Depending on what it was, they might also unleash the FBI on them and charge them with some nonsense crime in order to publicly humiliate them by running them through the courts. 
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