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think I'll stock up on frozen pizzas

Oh I don’t disagree.  But my fear is- what can they/ will they do about it. 

my point is- how does Putin react.  I am not confident he reacts in the way most of the rest of humanity wants him to.

And Cincy- I am not questioning what has been done or suggesting any different strategy.  That’s above my pay grade. 

Just watching a deadly game from the stands, trying to figure out if it expands into the stands and out of the stadium, since conditions are quickly worsening on the field, in the stands, and beyond- and the main combatant is not stable or predictable. 

The rest of the world is only going to allow itself to be held hostage by a nuclear terrorist for so long.

And to put a fine point on it, that patience has pretty much run out.

Putin puts himself at tables 20' away from his nearest adversaries, he hides in seclusion in his secret lair in the Urals.  He doesn't act like a person who is fine with pushing the button that ends the life of himself and every single person he's ever known and cared about.  

That absolutely plays as part of the calculus.

I certainly hope this true. 

Yup me too.

I think it's more likely to be true than otherwise

call his bluff

end this horseshit

Posters on this thread need to be careful about saying anything harsh about Putin.  He may decide to start a nuclear war and end civilization as a result of what you post here.  Not to mention the irreparable harm that would do to the climate.

Clearly giving Ukraine a handful of old Polish Mig29s is way over the line and would result in world wide nuclear destruction.

IMHO, he's lost no matter what, I don't see how he can get sizeable gains at this point.  I can't envision any future where this is a win at all.  He certainly needs a "gain" he can spin as a win, no doubt, no Nazis in Ukraine, and perhaps recognition of Crimea and Donbass.  But it is a lot of expense and effort to recover two relatively minor pieces of land.  Is that sufficient for him to spin?  Maybe, internally.