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I am an intelligent, rational human being.  I can both dislike and disapprove of past US military action, and also dislike and disapprove of the current situation in Ukraine.

The difference, is that one is the topic of this thread, and one is not.

If you would like to talk about past US military actions there are plenty of places other than this thread to do so.

You sound like a dictator here.
Ignore the past.
Pretend there's no link.
I forbid this action.

There are rumors out there that Xi knew about the impending Russian invasion, and asked Putin to hold off until after the Olympics.  I can speculate but there's no way to know for sure if that's true.  However, IF true, then it was just one of many major blunders, because it was just enough time to push Ukraine out of the season where the ground is frozen and easily traversed, and into the season where it starts to thaw and get muddy.


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There are OSINT groups all over the interwebs verifying Russian equipment losses that are occurring by way of destruction, abandonment, and Ukrainian farmer theft.  The Ukrainians taking pictures are intentionally getting views of the identification numbers of all vehicles, when not damaged beyond al recognition.  So I tend to believe the running numbers for Russian equipment loss-- if anything they're probably low because Ukrainians aren't taking pictures and publishing every single item taken/destroyed.

The numbers for troop losses are far less concrete, for obvious reasons.

So Ukranian Farmers are toppling the Semi - Red Army?

For sure, I'm worse than Putin, even.

So YOU'RE why there's been a rising trend of Polonium poisoning amongst people trying to move to Austin? 

Explain why prior US actions are relevant to this invasion?

The US does it too?  OK, got it, thanks.

• Russia clearly views (and should view) the US military as a threat
• Ukraine is on the Russian border
• America has been supplying Ukraine weapons for some time
• America will make no promises about Ukraine joining NATO nor apparently much anything else relating to Russia's concerns

Again, we can go on and on about it, but if China started sending weapons to, I dunno, Mexico and was intimately involved in their elections and there was a strong anti-US sentiment developing in the country, there would be a massive movement to do something about it. 

Keep on posting about Afghanistan and Yemen and it'll keep on getting deleted.  It didn't happen by mistake.

Your whataboutism is tiresome and irrelevant.  Try some other tactic if you really feel you must blame the USA for Russia slaughtering Ukraine.