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Honestbuckeye

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« Reply #812 on: March 07, 2022, 05:34:30 PM »
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« Reply #813 on: March 07, 2022, 09:17:51 PM »
I remind you this is the Ukraine thread.

Discussions of out of office politicians with no relevance to the current war can go to the other news thread, or even better, Area 51.
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« Reply #814 on: March 07, 2022, 09:23:40 PM »
LVIV, Russia — A Russian general was killed in the fighting around Kharkiv, Ukraine’s second-largest city, which Russian forces have been trying to seize since the invasion began, the Ukrainian military intelligence agency said.

It identified him as Maj. Gen. Vitaly Gerasimov, 45, and said he had fought with Russian forces in Syria and Chechnya and had taken part in the seizure of Crimea in 2014.

It was not possible to confirm the death independently. Russia has not commented.

Another Russian general was killed earlier in the fighting. A local officers’ organization in Russia confirmed the death in Ukraine of Maj. Gen. Andrei Sukhovetsky, the commanding general of the Russian 7th Airborne Division.

Sukhovetsky also took part in Russia’s military campaign in Syria.
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« Reply #815 on: March 07, 2022, 09:27:54 PM »
UNITED NATIONS -- Ukraine’s U.N. ambassador says 12 days of an all-out invasion by Russia has brought Ukraine to “the brink of humanitarian catastrophe of potentially global nature.”

Sergiy Kyslytsya, speaking Monday at a U.N. Security Council meeting on the crisis, accused Russia of blocking numerous attempts by Ukrainian authorities to evacuate civilians through humanitarian corridors.

He said Russians shelled depots with evacuation buses near Mariupol and blew up the railway near Irpin in the Kyiv region to prevent evacuation by train. He said Russia bombed and launched missiles at those cities and others like Kharkiv on Monday.

Kyslytsya said Russia must stop violating cease-fire arrangements and allow safe passage through humanitarian corridors, end disinformation, and implement the U.N. General Assembly’s resolution calling for an immediate stop to fighting.
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« Reply #816 on: March 07, 2022, 10:20:56 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on March 07, 2022, 09:27:54 PM

Kyslytsya said Russia must stop violating cease-fire arrangements and allow safe passage through humanitarian corridors, end disinformation, and implement the U.N. General Assembly’s resolution calling for an immediate stop to fighting.

Yep, they'll get right on that.
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« Reply #817 on: March 07, 2022, 10:24:40 PM »
Diplomats have to say these things anyway.  

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« Reply #818 on: March 07, 2022, 10:54:02 PM »
no

they don't
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« Reply #819 on: March 07, 2022, 11:22:06 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on March 07, 2022, 10:54:02 PM
no

they don't
A Ukrainian diplomat doesn't have to say "Russia really must stop killing us when they agreed to not kill us for a bit?"

Even though everyone knows Russia won't stop?

Of course he has to say that.
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« Reply #820 on: March 08, 2022, 01:42:57 AM »
The UN is the meme of the person saying "everything is fine" while a house burns around them.  No, they're not actually saying any of this is fine, but they're using words as if it's going to do anything. 

They might as well form their hands into a gun shape and yell, "pew pew, Russia, pew pew!"  It would be equally as helpful.
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #821 on: March 08, 2022, 06:39:19 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 08, 2022, 01:42:57 AM
The UN is the meme of the person saying "everything is fine" while a house burns around them.  No, they're not actually saying any of this is fine, but they're using words as if it's going to do anything. 

They might as well form their hands into a gun shape and yell, "pew pew, Russia, pew pew!"  It would be equally as helpful.
What alternative do you suggest for the UN?
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« Reply #822 on: March 08, 2022, 06:45:04 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 08, 2022, 06:39:19 AM
What alternative do you suggest for the UN?
Giant meteor?
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« Reply #823 on: March 08, 2022, 09:13:36 AM »
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« Reply #824 on: March 08, 2022, 09:22:11 AM »
The situation is ugly.  

You have innocent people being slaughtered in Ukraine as well as their property and possessions.

Here inflation is running rampant and getting substantially worse by the day, with each move contributing even more to that issue.

And apparently we’re going to give planes to Poland which may or may not be a good move.

It’s above my pay grade, but I really don’t like where this is going.

I fear a global recession or even depression is possible if not likely, as well as an escalation which drags us into serious military action.
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« Reply #825 on: March 08, 2022, 09:45:43 AM »
I had been 50-50 on recession soon, I'm now probably 70-30 thinking we'll see a global recession, by the technical definition, before the year is out, and perhaps stagflation.  Higher prices are eating up a lot of disposable income, so folks cut back on "luxuries".

I figure oil production will start to come back just as this hits and demand drops hard.
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