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I've seen lots of the actual war footage and shelling footage and have no desire to turn this into some kind of war-porn thread.

But this is one of the more revealing "aftermath" videos I've seen.  We've all been talking about how it's going to start getting worse for Ukraine, and this is the beginning of it.

Note-- no bodies in this video.  Just major destruction of property.


https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1499488533622448134?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1499488533622448134%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.surlyhorns.com%2Fboard%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FReuters%2Fstatus%2F1499488533622448134%3Fs%3D2026t%3DTCqJDcejMgHIWv9u-PCsGg

jesus christ that is god awful.

And Ukraine is a poor country, all this damage makes it poorer.  The Russians won't have money to rebuild it.

yeah, it's the poorest country in Europe. And the most corrupt too. So any money that gets funneled into Ukraine to rebuild it- you can bet your ass gov't officials are going to steal some of it. 

Then the lesson is to be other than average and break the law often?

Then the lesson is to be other than average and break the law often?

I think the lesson should be only break the law often if you're super rich with great connections or super high up in the gov't. you'll usually get away scot-free, and even if you get caught you'll just get a slap on the wrist.

I am glad you posted it.  It incredibly sad and simultaneously makes me sad and angry.

But it’s a good exercise to remind us of what is at the core of our discussion here.  By no means am I saying we need it, but sometimes when we throw words around a page we can lose sight of what’s really happening.

It also makes you feel helpless.  Wishing for a way to help.  Rrrgggghh.  War sucks.

This perfectly sums up where I’m at. I’m someone between sad, angry and feeling helpless. A very close friend of mine is a former special forces sniper that married into a Ukrainian family and was about to jump on a plane last week and luckily we talked him out of it.

There’s no winner here besides the corrupt.  Looking at these cities torn apart makes me think about it happening here and how that would change life forever.

This was his best I've always thought because it cuts thru the bullshit and is right - if all diplomatic channels have been exhausted