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« Reply #532 on: March 03, 2022, 10:53:26 AM »
The Russian leadership the last 20 years is worse than it was back in the USSR.  More corrupt, no internal accountability, less risk adverse.
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« Reply #533 on: March 03, 2022, 11:01:05 AM »


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« Reply #534 on: March 03, 2022, 11:02:22 AM »
I had thought Putin was a savvy leader in the past, someone who understood geopolitics pretty well and practiced it pretty well compared to most leaders, and maybe that was true, in the past.  (That doesn't mean he's not lawless and dangerous, just that he's effective, or was.)

Some of the USSR Premiers were pretty bad, old, ancient really.

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« Reply #535 on: March 03, 2022, 11:16:34 AM »
Putin is a lying mass murdering SOB even before this war in Ukraine.  He came to power in 1999 by setting off 4 bombs off in 3 Russian cities and blaming Chechen separatists.  Next, he launched a second war on the Russian Province of Chechnya where he leveled its capitol of Grozny killing thousands of Russians.  Putin invaded Georgia in 2007/8.  Poisoned the elected president of Ukraine, invaded Ukraine in 2014 and annexed Crimea.  Started separatist movements in Moldova and Ukraine. Shot down a civilian airliner over Ukraine.  Nerve toxin and polonium poisonings in the UK of Russian defectors.  Assassinations in Europe.  Mass murder of civilians in Syria, like tens of thousands.  The list goes on and on from 1999 to present day.  It's totally amazing the West hasn't jumped his shit before now.
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« Reply #536 on: March 03, 2022, 11:18:38 AM »
I had thought Putin was a savvy leader in the past, someone who understood geopolitics pretty well and practiced it pretty well compared to most leaders, and maybe that was true, in the past.  (That doesn't mean he's not lawless and dangerous, just that he's effective, or was.)
Some of the USSR Premiers were pretty bad, old, ancient really.
.After Stalin - Khruschev lightened things up at home though antagonstic to the west.After Brezhnev/Andropov things lightened up again.Then unfortunately Vlad got his hooks in.Hopefully we could some day clean house in Washington and Wall St
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« Reply #537 on: March 03, 2022, 11:18:42 AM »
He's certainly not a nice fellow, but I was commenting on his savviness.

Hitler was pretty savvy for quite some time.

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« Reply #538 on: March 03, 2022, 11:19:35 AM »
Hopefully we could some day clean house in Washington and Wall St
I don't hope for the impossible.  I gave up on the Dawgs ever winning another NC in my lifetime, it seemed futile.


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« Reply #540 on: March 03, 2022, 11:27:24 AM »
Absolute insanity. Might be using it as a tool/ploy to squash dissent. Don’t see how that could possibly do anything but backfire if they actually tried to do it.
same guy giving a little context, but the fact it's even being discussed, even as an idle threat (i'm not 100% sure it is) is abhorrent.


https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1499397187809198080

also from same thread was this. putin showing signs of major illness? not a confirmed video, btw, so take with grain of salt.


https://twitter.com/elin_sal/status/1499412118029979651



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« Reply #542 on: March 03, 2022, 11:31:58 AM »
It would be a bad idea to send conscripts into actual battles if they are obviously against the war in the first place.

It would have a negative outcome for nearly all.

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« Reply #543 on: March 03, 2022, 11:32:06 AM »
Putin is a lying mass murdering SOB even before this war in Ukraine.  He came to power in 1999 by setting off 4 bombs off in 3 Russian cities and blaming Chechen separatists.  
I don't know if this is true or not certainly plausible.From what I've learned about the Chechens the opposite could be true also.Sad commentary all around
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« Reply #544 on: March 03, 2022, 11:34:46 AM »
I don't hope for the impossible.  I gave up on the Dawgs ever winning another NC in my lifetime, it seemed futile.
So you're saying there's a chance?
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« Reply #545 on: March 03, 2022, 11:36:16 AM »
One of the most quoted movie lines ever, oddly enough, but I really don't give a darn, game over man, game over, I'll be back.

 

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