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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #280 on: March 01, 2022, 08:58:41 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 01, 2022, 06:00:08 PM
Arrested by who, with what authority, and on what charge under what legal code?

A drone.
Common sense.
Prudence.
Joke.


You're not good with the joke receiving, are ye?
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #281 on: March 01, 2022, 08:59:15 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 01, 2022, 06:11:59 PM
Sure, if we all drove EVs.  But we don't, some of us even have large Diesel things we use to tow stuff.

We can't replace oil in months, or even a few years.
This is radically wrong.
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #282 on: March 01, 2022, 10:09:27 PM »
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #283 on: March 01, 2022, 11:29:19 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on March 01, 2022, 08:30:47 PM


What is happening now, was unfortunately predicted by many academics, politicians, diplomats, and intelligence experts of every political stripe and background- for over a decade. Unfortunately no one in power listened to any of them.

What might not be predicted is Russia getting shown their ass.
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« Reply #284 on: March 01, 2022, 11:37:10 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 01, 2022, 10:09:27 PM
Wrong how?

The fact that my truck is gas-fueled, not diesel.
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #285 on: March 02, 2022, 12:03:32 AM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on March 01, 2022, 11:29:19 PM
What might not be predicted is Russia getting shown their ass.
When you have a 40-mile convoy on a two-lane road one's ass is in full view of shoulder fired Javelin heat seeking missiles.
Ukrainian land is much like Midwestern farmland this time of year. You cannot drive in it without getting mired in muck. Fire on the first 10-vehicles, and very few will be able to go around in a ditch.
It's like firing at ducks on a pond. These Javelin devices with missiles loaded are about 35 lbs. A very strong man can walk 30-miles in a day with a shoulder fired missile. Ukraine has motivated men fighting for freedom. I am guessing there are men with sedans, and men walking on gravel roads on either side of this column just waiting for the fuel to be delivered so their Soviet era engines can warm up, and be fired upon.
If you were a Russian soldier's parent you might go to Moscow to search out the persons responsible for what is about to happen to their 18, 19, and 20 year old kids.
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #286 on: March 02, 2022, 12:12:55 AM »
I have been trying to understand this conflict better.
I was perping on a Ukrainian's Flickr page. He has a few personal incredible war photos. Click his photostream to see which can be found following the link below. 
He has this video from Summer 2021 Ukrainian Independence Day Parade, long before this conflict developed. These people have more national pride, and support democracy more than our population.  It is stirring. Click on it to view a small part of the parade. Belarussian red and white flag - their "friends" in low places, opposed to their own regime. All these people (Belarussians too) in Ukraine are opposed to Putin's puppet state(s).
Putin should have gotten a Flickr page to assess risks. Welcome to the 21st century.
The "Aidar" Battalion vets on parade on the Independence d… | Flickr
The "Aidar" Battalion vets on parade on the Independence d… | Flickr
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #287 on: March 02, 2022, 07:54:18 AM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on March 01, 2022, 11:29:19 PM
What might not be predicted is Russia getting shown their ass.
Well what many of them may not have predicted then was the US flooding Ukraine with lethal arms. Obama had refused to do this, overruling the military hawks in his administration- rightly so in my opinion. What's funny is that Trump- the "Russian Puppet" is the one who almost immediately reversed course once taking office and started flooding Ukraine with lethal arms and the Biden administration kept that flow going.

Ukraine is holding tough, but for how long? They can't hold up forever and my fear is Russia will get impatient and just do some really heinous sh*t, bomb more and bomb indiscriminately. Which of course they started to do - and will probably just continue more.
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #288 on: March 02, 2022, 08:05:32 AM »
All the reportage and emphasis on this long convoy for days and days ....

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« Reply #289 on: March 02, 2022, 08:17:18 AM »
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #290 on: March 02, 2022, 08:30:32 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on March 02, 2022, 08:17:18 AM

https://twitter.com/ryanlongcomedy/status/1498790773025820719?s=20&t=SHk8YDemZNXMrOELXBzn5g
Oh boy! That'll change his mind. Maybe we could revoke his planet fitness and Costco membership. AARP membership too! What will he do without his senior discounts?🤦‍♂️Mess with Sleepy Joe and you get the 4:00 pm diner discount revoked
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #291 on: March 02, 2022, 08:31:25 AM »
I'm seeing photos of damaged building in the "news", which I saw yesterday and the day before.  The "convoy" is not as much in the news. Russian forces seem to be advancing in the south out of Crimea.  Talks again today, hard to imagine anything changes there.

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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #292 on: March 02, 2022, 08:47:15 AM »
The news networks are about 2-3 days behind the internet sources/postings.

Images from yesterday/today from cities closest to the borders and sea, are heartbreaking.
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #293 on: March 02, 2022, 08:56:00 AM »
The images in the "news media" are heart breaking.  War is heart breaking, especially in urban areas.  What happened to that convoy?

It went from lead story about how massive it was and nearing Kyiv to ....

Live coverage - Russian push for Ukrainian cities accelerates | TheHill
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