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Mdot21

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« Reply #126 on: February 28, 2022, 02:13:58 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on February 28, 2022, 01:58:45 PM
Those Russian "demands" are very likely what they demanded at the "peace talks", I would guess.  And yes, there was little hope for those talks.  It's good to have an idea what they want.
Um, they haven’t exactly been shy about what they want. They’ve been talking about it for 15 years. 

Leaked state department cables going back to ‘07 have shown this and predicted what might happen - and turns out those predictions came to pass.
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #127 on: February 28, 2022, 02:14:34 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on February 28, 2022, 02:07:16 PM
 It’s the US he wants dialogue with, he could give a shit to talk about Macron, a weak leader of a weak country. 
This is OPINION, and in my view, OPINION about POLITICAL LEADERS should be avoid here to the extent possible.  

In other words, your disdain for Macron is noted, and irrelevant.
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« Reply #128 on: February 28, 2022, 02:17:04 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on February 28, 2022, 02:14:34 PM
This is OPINION, and in my view, OPINION about POLITICAL LEADERS should be avoid here to the extent possible. 

In other words, your disdain for Macron is noted, and irrelevant.
Macron being weak and France being weak is opinion. It’s fact. What power does France have on the world stage? Almost none.

Putin wants to make a deal with the US on NATO. That’s what he’s wanted for 15 years. France is a nothing country. The US is where all the power lies.
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #129 on: February 28, 2022, 02:22:43 PM »
I get a sense you are not taking a hint.
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« Reply #130 on: February 28, 2022, 02:23:51 PM »
Moderately amazing that Switzerland has foregone hundreds of years of neutrality and adopted the EU sanctions.
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« Reply #131 on: February 28, 2022, 02:25:10 PM »
No need for the US to listen to Putin's bullshitska while his army is in Ukraine.
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« Reply #132 on: February 28, 2022, 02:49:43 PM »
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« Reply #133 on: February 28, 2022, 02:50:20 PM »
Quote from: Temp430 on February 28, 2022, 02:23:51 PM
Moderately amazing that Switzerland has foregone hundreds of years of neutrality and adopted the EU sanctions.
Yeah, I was legit shocked by it. Not a good sign for Putin.
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« Reply #134 on: February 28, 2022, 02:51:03 PM »
Quote from: Temp430 on February 28, 2022, 02:25:10 PM
No need for the US to listen to Putin's bullshitska while his army is in Ukraine.
Agree. Ending the war and total pull out is condition #1 for any deal talks. Obviously. 
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« Reply #135 on: February 28, 2022, 02:53:22 PM »
Its been reported that Ukraine is releasing its citizens in prison to fight the russians

you cant write this stuff man that would be a cool movie

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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #136 on: February 28, 2022, 03:11:20 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on February 28, 2022, 02:53:22 PM
Its been reported that Ukraine is releasing its citizens in prison to fight the russians

you cant write this stuff man that would be a cool movie

say hello to my little friends
Omg that’s crazy lol. 
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« Reply #137 on: February 28, 2022, 03:27:04 PM »
Ukrainian ambassador to the UN hasn't minced the words since the very beginning of the invasion, but this was pointed, even for him:


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"If he wants to kill himself, he doesn't need to use a nuclear arsenal. He has to do what the guy in the bunker did in Berlin in May 1945"



https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1498387430843502593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1498387430843502593%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.surlyhorns.com%2Fboard%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FEuromaidanPress%2Fstatus%2F1498387430843502593%3Fs%3D2026t%3D-dAEH4DzMKpJcrgnYuUQjQ
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #138 on: February 28, 2022, 04:15:36 PM »
Two Russian billionaire oligarchs, Mikhail Fridman and Oleg Deripaska - openly call for peace and for Russia to end the war in Ukraine. Deripaska is said to be very tight with Putin. It's unclear if he still lives in Russia full-time. Fridman, like a lot of Russian oligarchs, lives in London full-time.

Japan, Singapore, and South Korea join the wests sanctions in cutting off Russia from the global financial world. One of Russias biggest imports are cars from Japan and South Korea. They buy more cars from Japan than any country.

Also sounds like Xi Jinping is getting impatient with Putin and wants this to be settled...tells him to negotiate with Ukraine:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3r63oTjimE
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #139 on: February 28, 2022, 05:37:00 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on February 28, 2022, 02:17:04 PM
What power does France have on the world stage? Almost none.


Nuclear weapons.
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