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Topic: Wisconsin (3-3, 5-4) at Iowa (4-2, 6-3) Post Game

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847badgerfan

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Wisconsin (3-3, 5-4) at Iowa (4-2, 6-3) Post Game
« on: October 31, 2024, 09:16:52 AM »
I guess someone should bring it up. Penn State kinda broke my spirit for Wisconsin.

This is a trench game for sure.

Wisconsin has been good at protecting the QB, but the QB is prone to happy feet, poor decisions and batted balls. He cannot beat a team on his own.

If Wisconsin can run, they will keep this one in reach. If not, it's over.

The Wisconsin D has been suspect against mobile QB's but otherwise pretty stout.

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« Last Edit: November 04, 2024, 11:38:55 AM by ELA »
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Re: Wisconsin (5-3, 3-2) at Iowa (5-3, 3-2) Game Week
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2024, 11:53:02 AM »
Iowa 27, Wisconsin 21

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Re: Wisconsin (5-3, 3-2) at Iowa (5-3, 3-2) Game Week
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2024, 12:42:51 PM »
Hawks 16
Badgers 13
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Re: Wisconsin (5-3, 3-2) at Iowa (5-3, 3-2) Game Week
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2024, 12:59:25 PM »
Iowa's QB depth is suddenly very thin.  Cade MacNamara is out with a concussion and can't play.

  QB Brendan Sullivan will be starting and probably would have been starting anyway.

3rd stringer Marco Lainez is a little banged up and it's not sure if he can play.  Probably could play in an emergency,  but not sure how well.

Former 4th stringer James Resar moved to WR and got hurt as a WR,  and is out.

That leaves preferred walk on Jackson Stratton,  who played some QB at Col St and then transferred to Iowa,  as the only healthy backup QB available.  After that,  there are some Iowa players that played some QB in high school.

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Re: Wisconsin (5-3, 3-2) at Iowa (5-3, 3-2) Game Week
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2024, 01:09:59 PM »
no worries the Watt Bros have moved on the the NFL
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Re: Wisconsin (5-3, 3-2) at Iowa (5-3, 3-2) Game Week
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2024, 01:15:55 PM »
no worries the Watt Bros have moved on the the NFL
One is retired, although rumors are the Lions kicked the tires when Hutchinson got hurt

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Re: Wisconsin (5-3, 3-2) at Iowa (5-3, 3-2) Game Week
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2024, 01:34:06 PM »
Two are retired, but one of them was a fullback. 3 NFL Watts. Is that a record for brothers in the NFL?
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Re: Wisconsin (5-3, 3-2) at Iowa (5-3, 3-2) Game Week
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2024, 01:59:11 PM »
Two are retired, but one of them was a fullback. 3 NFL Watts. Is that a record for brothers in the NFL?
There were 3 Fullers.  Corey, Kendall and Kyle

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Re: Wisconsin (5-3, 3-2) at Iowa (5-3, 3-2) Game Week
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2024, 02:05:51 PM »
3 Selmon bros at Oklahoma back in the day

Lucious, Dewey and Lee Roy Selmon


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Re: Wisconsin (5-3, 3-2) at Iowa (5-3, 3-2) Game Week
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2024, 02:12:20 PM »
Iowa's defense is typically stingy, but appears stronger against the run than against the pass. In its losses, Iowa has given up 200+ yards passing (as well as a couple of its wins, including Washington and Minnesota). Curiously, Ohio State is on the low end of that (barely clearing 200), but both Iowa State and Michigan State put up 250+ yards of passing. Does Locke have it in him? 

Michigan State and Ohio State also ran effectively against Iowa, both clearing 200 yards, both by committee. In Iowa's other loss, to Iowa State, they stoned the running game (and in their wins). Iowa imploded with three second-half turnovers against OSU, but that wasn't an issue with MSU (1 int, but the MSU loss wasn't close to a 1-score game). Iowa's loss to Iowa State included two INTs, but McNamara won't play against the Badgers, so who knows what to expect in the passing game. With a backup quarterback, and an opposing team that doesn't grind the clock, if I'm Iowa, I want to stuff the ball down Wisconsin's throat and win TOP. We all know that late in the game Wisconsin's defense is often gassed--if Iowa can keep pounding away at it, that seems like a recipe for an Iowa win.

Iowa also causes turnovers, including interceptions--even in the games they lose. Can Locke limit himself to one, not back-breaking, interception? If so, and he can get Pauling open in the slot, he's certainly capable of putting up yards on the Iowa defense. But he's also perfectly capable of throwing 4 picks in a game. We'll see. But to be able to get the running game going, Wisconsin will have to be able to hurt Iowa through the air.

It will be a risk/reward kind of game. If Locke limits his mistakes, the Badgers should have a good shot at this, but Wisconsin can't win this game by handing the ball to Walker and Yacamelli--nor is their team designed to do that really against any team, but especially against the Hawkeyes.

So I see Iowa turning to the same old Big Ten playbook--keep the ball in front of it, and grind away at Wisconsin; try to win a classic 20 to 13-ish brawl. For the Badgers, I respectfully disagree with Badge: they have to be able to open the field with the passing game, but we all know the risk that comes with. I don't see Locke getting out of this game without an INT, but if he can do what other winning QBs have done against Iowa: 250+ yards, 2 TDs, and 1 INT, I can see Wisconsin putting up enough points to get by an Iowa squad that won't likely light up the scoreboard...unless Locke is throwing them the ball.

I think the Badgers need at least 24 to win this one. If they get to 28, they will win. It will all depend on how many picks Locke throws.

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Re: Wisconsin (5-3, 3-2) at Iowa (5-3, 3-2) Game Week
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2024, 02:17:40 PM »
I can see 2-3 picks for Locke in this game, and it gets out of hand. 

He, and his play caller, have the no-confidence vote from me.

They can prove me wrong, and I'll admit I was.
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Re: Wisconsin (5-3, 3-2) at Iowa (5-3, 3-2) Game Week
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2024, 02:37:39 PM »
As should be obvious from what I wrote there, I can absolutely see Locke imploding, but I'm not convinced it will necessarily happen. As I often say when discussing statistics: if it does happen, it is an expected outcome (if not the only expected outcome).

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Re: Wisconsin (5-3, 3-2) at Iowa (5-3, 3-2) Game Week
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2024, 02:45:38 PM »
3 Selmon bros at Oklahoma back in the day

Lucious, Dewey and Lee Roy Selmon


https://youtu.be/S1P0rVQJFRE
College happens all the time.  MSU has had 3 sets of 3 siblings in recent memory, just off the top of my head (Panisiuk, Allen, Dowell)

Fullers and Watts are the only to have 3 make the NFL off the top of my head.  Granted I think Dowell could still happen, the third just got signed to a practice squad.  Granted all 3 would be reserve types, while 2 of the 3 Watts are HOFers.

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Re: Wisconsin (5-3, 3-2) at Iowa (5-3, 3-2) Game Week
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2024, 04:55:09 PM »
Two are retired, but one of them was a fullback. 3 NFL Watts. Is that a record for brothers in the NFL?
The Hilgenbergs were close.   3 bothers started at Iowa and 2 (Jay and Joel) played in the NFL.  Also their uncle Wally Hilgenberg was an NFL hall of famer,   and their dad Jerry would have gone to the NFL but he was drafted into the military instead.

https://iowahistoryjournal.com/meet-the-hilgenbergs/

 

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