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Topic: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
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847badgerfan · « **Reply #112 on:** February 11, 2020, 09:15:20 PM »

Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on February 11, 2020, 08:58:09 PM

Okay, fellas. Here's a sporcle quiz on helmets - do it just for fun. I got 'em all in 6:48. This isn't a competition, I'm just looking at the stats of the quiz. But try it if you have 6:48 to kill.
https://www.sporcle.com/games/kfastic/teams-by-helmets

10:30. Missed two. Mixed up State of Ball and ULaMo.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #113 on:** February 11, 2020, 09:16:42 PM »

Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on February 11, 2020, 09:04:47 PM

FSU's rate is between Georgia and Michigan. Relatively high. Oddly, Clemson, Syracuse, and UNC are the top 3. Maybe a lot of people from ACC country have taken this quiz.
Lowest P5 helmet (not all P5 programs are included, it's 72 random helmets from FBS): Washington State.

Odd about WSU, since their flag has been flying on Gameday for 30 years.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #114 on:** February 11, 2020, 09:17:12 PM »

1990-2019:

1	Ohio State	0.80295	298	72	3	373
2	Florida State	0.74665	278	94	1	373
3	Florida	0.74215	283	98	1	382
4	Oklahoma	0.73499	280	100	3	383
5	Alabama	0.72011	265	103	0	368
6	Georgia	0.70997	270	110	1	381
7	Nebraska	0.70026	267	114	1	382
8	Miami-Florida	0.69624	259	113	0	372
9	Penn State	0.69600	261	114	0	375
10	Michigan	0.69467	259	113	3	375

11	Clemson	0.69321	265	117	1	383
12	Oregon	0.68617	258	118	0	376
13	Louisiana State	0.68583	256	117	1	374
14	Virginia Tech	0.68373	260	120	1	381
15	Texas	0.67905	255	120	2	377
16	Wisconsin	0.67885	258	121	4	383
17	Southern Cal	0.66667	242	120	4	366
18	Auburn	0.66444	247	124	3	374
19	Tennessee	0.65600	245	128	2	375
20	Utah	0.65041	240	129	0	369

847badgerfan · « **Reply #115 on:** February 11, 2020, 09:20:23 PM »

2000-2019:

1	Boise State	0.83588	219	43	0	262
2	Ohio State	0.82800	207	43	0	250
3	Oklahoma	0.81716	219	49	0	268
4	Louisiana State	0.77395	202	59	0	261
5	Georgia	0.74717	198	67	0	265
6	Alabama	0.74286	182	63	0	245
7	Clemson	0.73684	196	70	0	266
8	Oregon	0.72868	188	70	0	258
9	Texas Christian	0.71937	182	71	0	253
10	Southern Cal	0.71020	174	71	0	245

11	Wisconsin	0.70943	188	77	0	265
12t	Florida	0.70428	181	76	0	257
12t	Texas	0.70428	181	76	0	257
14	Virginia Tech	0.69318	183	81	0	264
15	Florida State	0.67600	169	81	0	250
16	Auburn	0.67568	175	84	0	259
17	Utah	0.67063	169	83	0	252
18	Miami-Florida	0.66008	167	86	0	253
19	Michigan	0.65613	166	87	0	253
20	Penn State	0.65079	164	88	0	252

21	Louisville	0.64822	164	89	0	253
22	West Virginia	0.63889	161	91	0	252
23	Oklahoma State	0.63241	160	93	0	253
24	Toledo	0.63200	158	92	0	250
25	Iowa	0.63137	161	94	0	255
26	Northern Illinois	0.62109	159	97	0	256
27	Brigham Young	0.61961	158	97	0	255
28	Nebraska	0.61868	159	98	0	257
29	Cincinnati	0.61811	157	97	0	254
30	Notre Dame	0.61304	141	89	0	230

847badgerfan · « **Reply #116 on:** February 11, 2020, 09:22:02 PM »

2010-2019:

1	Alabama	0.89209	124	15	0	139
2	Ohio State	0.85366	105	18	0	123
3	Clemson	0.83571	117	23	0	140
4	Oklahoma	0.81343	109	25	0	134
5	Boise State	0.80451	107	26	0	133
6	Louisiana State	0.78626	103	28	0	131
7	Oregon	0.75940	101	32	0	133
8	Wisconsin	0.75000	102	34	0	136
9	Georgia	0.73529	100	36	0	136
10	Stanford	0.73485	97	35	0	132

11	Florida State	0.72180	96	37	0	133
12	Oklahoma State	0.71538	93	37	0	130
13	Michigan State	0.69697	92	40	0	132
14	San Diego State	0.68182	90	42	0	132
15	Central Florida	0.67692	88	42	0	130
16t	Texas Christian	0.67442	87	42	0	129
16t	Penn State	0.67442	87	42	0	129
18	Northern Illinois	0.67407	91	44	0	135
19	Toledo	0.66406	85	43	0	128
20	Auburn	0.65909	87	45	0	132

21	Michigan	0.65891	85	44	0	129
22	Notre Dame	0.65741	71	37	0	108
23	Southern Cal	0.65649	86	45	0	131
24	Texas A&M Texas A&M	0.64615	84	46	0	130
25	Washington	0.63910	85	48	0	133
26t	Utah	0.63846	83	47	0	130
26t	Baylor	0.63846	83	47	0	130
28	Florida	0.63780	81	46	0	127
29	Virginia Tech	0.63158	84	49	0	133
30t	Kansas State	0.62791	81	48	0	129

847badgerfan · « **Reply #117 on:** February 11, 2020, 09:23:11 PM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on February 11, 2020, 09:22:02 PM

2010-2019:

1 Alabama 0.89209 124 15 0 139
2 Ohio State 0.85366 105 18 0 123
3 Clemson 0.83571 117 23 0 140
4 Oklahoma 0.81343 109 25 0 134
5 Boise State 0.80451 107 26 0 133
6 Louisiana State 0.78626 103 28 0 131
7 Oregon 0.75940 101 32 0 133
8 Wisconsin 0.75000 102 34 0 136
9 Georgia 0.73529 100 36 0 136
10 Stanford 0.73485 97 35 0 132
11 Florida State 0.72180 96 37 0 133
12 Oklahoma State 0.71538 93 37 0 130
13 Michigan State 0.69697 92 40 0 132
14 San Diego State 0.68182 90 42 0 132
15 Central Florida 0.67692 88 42 0 130
16t Texas Christian 0.67442 87 42 0 129
16t Penn State 0.67442 87 42 0 129
18 Northern Illinois 0.67407 91 44 0 135
19 Toledo 0.66406 85 43 0 128
20 Auburn 0.65909 87 45 0 132
21 Michigan 0.65891 85 44 0 129
22 Notre Dame 0.65741 71 37 0 108
23 Southern Cal 0.65649 86 45 0 131
24 Texas A&M
Texas A&M 0.64615 84 46 0 130
25 Washington 0.63910 85 48 0 133
26t Utah 0.63846 83 47 0 130
26t Baylor 0.63846 83 47 0 130
28 Florida 0.63780 81 46 0 127
29 Virginia Tech 0.63158 84 49 0 133
30t Kansas State 0.62791 81 48 0 129

847badgerfan · « **Reply #118 on:** February 11, 2020, 09:23:40 PM »

1	Clemson	0.93243	69	5	0	74
2	Alabama	0.91667	66	6	0	72
3	Ohio State	0.89706	61	7	0	68
4	Oklahoma	0.85294	58	10	0	68
5	Appalachian State	0.81818	54	12	0	66
6	Louisiana State	0.78462	51	14	0	65
7	Georgia	0.78261	54	15	0	69
8	Boise State	0.77612	52	15	0	67
9	Wisconsin	0.76471	52	16	0	68
10	Penn State	0.74242	49	17	0	66

11	Notre Dame	0.73438	47	17	0	64
12	San Diego State	0.73134	49	18	0	67
13	Michigan	0.72308	47	18	0	65
14	Iowa	0.71212	47	19	0	66
15t	Washington	0.70149	47	20	0	67
15t	Memphis	0.70149	47	20	0	67
17	Oklahoma State	0.69231	45	20	0	65
18	Florida	0.68750	44	20	0	64
19	Utah	0.68657	46	21	0	67
20	UAB	0.68293	28	13	0	41

21	Toledo	0.67188	43	21	0	64
22t	Washington State	0.66154	43	22	0	65
22t	Stanford	0.66154	43	22	0	65
24	Louisiana Tech	0.65152	43	23	0	66
25	Temple	0.64179	43	24	0	67
26t	Houston	0.64062	41	23	0	64
26t	Central Florida	0.64062	41	23	0	64
28t	Auburn	0.63636	42	24	0	66
28t	Southern Cal	0.63636	42	24	0	66
30t	Troy	0.63492	40	23	0	63

OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #119 on:** February 11, 2020, 10:22:30 PM »

40 years before the last 40:
1. Oklahoma
2. Penn St
3. Ohio St
4. Alabama
5. USC
6. Texas
7. Nebraska
8. Michigan
9. ND
10. Arkansas
11. Tennessee
.
The last 40 years:
1. Ohio St
2. Florida St
3. Florida
4. Oklahoma
5. Alabama
6. Georgia
7. Nebraska
8. Miami
9. Penn St
10. Michigan
11. Clemson
.
According to this, and this dumps all the pre-WWII junk - Nebraska is a solid helmet and so is Penn St.
Tennessee and ND can go suck a big, fat one. The Florida schools' results are on par with what ND, USC, and such did back in the day.
I think there's obvious recency bias against the "johnny-come-latelies". But 40 years is 40 years. Notre Dame = Kansas State the last 40 years, plus a TV contract. The numbers don't lie. USC is between Wisconsin and Auburn. Texas is behind VA Tech.
.
Our idea of a helmet program is dated.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #120 on:** February 12, 2020, 02:09:25 AM »

The whole idea of a Helmet Program to me has sparing to do with wins and losses.

The programs with the most wins of late may not be HPs at all. But, whatever.

Perhaps it is random.

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #121 on:** February 12, 2020, 10:14:42 AM »

Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on February 11, 2020, 08:58:09 PM

Okay, fellas. Here's a sporcle quiz on helmets - do it just for fun. I got 'em all in 6:48. This isn't a competition, I'm just looking at the stats of the quiz. But try it if you have 6:48 to kill.
https://www.sporcle.com/games/kfastic/teams-by-helmets

Not great. 63/72 with 1:02 remaining on the clock.

FearlessF · « **Reply #122 on:** February 12, 2020, 11:46:03 AM »

Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on February 11, 2020, 10:22:30 PM

According to this, and this dumps all the pre-WWII junk - Nebraska is a solid helmet and so is Penn St.
Tennessee and ND can go suck a big, fat one. The Florida schools' results are on par with what ND, USC, and such did back in the day.
I think there's obvious recency bias against the "johnny-come-latelies". But 40 years is 40 years. Notre Dame = Kansas State the last 40 years, plus a TV contract. The numbers don't lie. USC is between Wisconsin and Auburn. Texas is behind VA Tech.
.
Our idea of a helmet program is dated.

I agree, but....

the dudes that came up with the "helmet" program idea and definition are older than 40.

Damn Boomers!

FearlessF · « **Reply #123 on:** February 12, 2020, 12:23:38 PM »

Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on February 11, 2020, 09:08:35 PM

Hallowed 8 Helmet Programs, 1970-1979:
win%, Team
.877 OU
.863 Alabama
.848 Michigan
.820 Nebraska
.811 Ohio St
.805 ND
.803 USC
.770 Texas
.
.814 Penn St
.654 Tennessee
.
The Vols were behind Georgia, LSU, Arkansas, and new-to-P5-status Houston and Arizona St.

it seems the 70's were the decade that made helmets, but I'd go farther........

1 Alabama
2 Nebraska
3 Penn State
4 ~~Boise State~~
5 Oklahoma
6 Ohio State
7 Southern Cal
8 Texas
9 Michigan

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10 Arkansas
11 Arizona State
12 Notre Dame ???
13 Georgia
14 Auburn
15 Louisiana State
16 Tennessee

TyphonInc · « **Reply #124 on:** February 12, 2020, 04:38:03 PM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on February 11, 2020, 09:15:20 PM

10:30. Missed two. Mixed up State of Ball and ULaMo.

mine said 4:55 (I think that's how much time was left.)
I missed Nevada, clicked on New Mexico. I kicked myself as soon as I did it.
I also saved NC State for the end because I really thought it was Stanford. (Maybe small screen or bad eyes.)

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #125 on:** February 12, 2020, 04:57:01 PM »

Quote from: TyphonInc on February 12, 2020, 04:38:03 PM

mine said 4:55 (I think that's how much time was left.)
I missed Nevada, clicked on New Mexico. I kicked myself as soon as I did it.
I also saved NC State for the end because I really thought it was Stanford. (Maybe small screen or bad eyes.)

Huh, was there a "skip" function? I could have probably done it faster and more accurately if I hadn't had to pick out a few of the G5 schools I didn't know right up front...

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