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Topic: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?

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medinabuckeye1

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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #56 on: January 28, 2020, 05:38:00 PM »
Helluva list by the Buckeyes, but curiously absent in the 80's

In the 80s the recruiting picked up but the production tailed off
Per @ELA 's list the Buckeyes would have made it 24 times in the 84 years of the AP poll.  That works out to once every three-and-a-half years but there are, of course, groups of good times and groups of bad years.  From 1936-2019:
  • 1936-1941, no appearances in six years
  • 1942-1944, two appearances in three years
  • 1945-1953, no appearances in nine years
  • 1954-1957, two appearances in four years
  • 1958-1960, no appearances in three years
  • 1961, appeared
  • 1962-1967, no appearances in six years
  • 1968-1975, seven appearances in eight years
  • 1976-1978, no appearances in three years
  • 1979, appeared
  • 1980-1994, no appearances in 15 years
  • 1995-1998, three appearances in four years
  • 1999-2001, no appearances in three years
  • 2002-2007, four appearances in six years
  • 2008-2011, no appearances in four years
  • 2012-2019, four appearances in eight years

The Wolverines would have made it 15 times in 84 years, that works out to once every five-and-a-half years:
  • 1936-1939, no appearances in four years
  • 1940-1943, two appearances in four years
  • 1944-1946, no appearances in three years
  • 1947-1948, two appearances in two years
  • 1949-1963, no appearances in 15 years
  • 1964, appeared
  • 1965-1970, no appearances in six years
  • 1971-1977, four appearances in seven years
  • 1978-1985, no appearances in eight years
  • 1986-1991, three appearances in six years
  • 1992-1996, no appearances in five years
  • 1997, appeared
  • 1998-2002, no appearances in five years
  • 2003-2006, two appearances in four years
  • 2007-2019, no appearances in 13 years

The Cornhuskers would have made it 13 times in 84 years, that works out to once every six-and-a-half-years:
  • 1936-1964, no appearances in 29 years
  • 1965, appeared
  • 1966-1969, no appearances in four years
  • 1970-1971, two appearances in two years
  • 1972-1980, no appearances in nine years
  • 1981-1984, four appearances in four years
  • 1985-1992, no appearances in eight years
  • 1993-2001, six appearances in nine years
  • 2002-2019, no appearances in 18 years

The Spartans would have made it nine times in 84 years, that works out to once every nine-and-a-third years:
  • 1936-1950, no appearances in 15 years
  • 1951-1957, five appearances in seven years
  • 1958-1964, no appearances in seven years
  • 1965-1966, two appearances in two years
  • 1967-2012, no appearances in 46 years
  • 2013-2015, two appearances in three years
  • 2016-2019, no appearances in four years

The Nittany Lions would have made it eight times in 84 years, that works out to once every ten-and-a-half years:
  • 1936-1967, no appearances in 32 years
  • 1968-1969, two appearances in two years
  • 1970-1977, no appearances in eight years
  • 1978, appeared
  • 1979-1981, no appearances in three years
  • 1982-1986, three appearances in five years
  • 1987-1993, no appearances in seven years
  • 1994, appeared
  • 1995-2004, no appearances in 10 years
  • 2005, appeared
  • 2006-2019, no appearances in 14 years

The Hawkeyes would have made it five times in 84 years, that works out to once every almost 17 years:
  • 1936-1955, no appearances in 20 years
  • 1956-1960, three appearances in five years
  • 1961-1984, no appearances in 24 years
  • 1985, appeared
  • 1986-2001, no appearances in 16 years
  • 2002, appeared
  • 2003-2019, no appearances in 17 years

The Badgers would have made it four times in 84 years, that works out to once every 21 years:
  • 1936-1941, no appearances in six years
  • 1942, appeared
  • 1943-1961, no appearances in 19 years
  • 1962, appeared
  • 1963-1998, no appearances in 36 years
  • 1999, appeared
  • 2000-2009, no appearances in 10 years
  • 2010, appeared
  • 2011-2019, no appearances in nine years

The Terps would have made it four times in 84 years, that works out to once every 21 years:
  • 1936-1950, no appearances in 15 years
  • 1951-1955, three appearances in five years
  • 1956-1975, no appearances in 20 years
  • 1976, appeared
  • 1977-2019, no appearances in 43 years

The Gophers would have made it four times in 84 years, that works out to once every 21 years:
  • 1936, appeared
  • 1937-1939, no appearances in three years
  • 1940-1941, two appearances in two years
  • 1942-1959, no appearances in 18 years
  • 1960, appeared
  • 1961-2019, no appearances in 59 years

The Illini would have made it three times in 84 years, that works out to once every 28 years:
  • 1936-1950, no appearances in 15 years
  • 1951, appeared
  • 1952-1962, no appearances in 11 years
  • 1963, appeared
  • 1964-1982, no appearances in 19 years
  • 1983, appeared
  • 1984-2019, no appearances in 36 years

The Hoosiers would have made it twice in 84 years, that works out to once every 42 years:
  • 1936-1944, no appearances in eight years
  • 1945, appeared
  • 1946-1966, no appearances in 21 years
  • 1967, appeared
  • 1968-2019, no appearances in 52 years

The Wildcats would have made it once in 84 years, that works out to once every 84 years:
  • 1936-1994, no appearances in 59 years
  • 1995, appeared
  • 1996-2019, no appearances in 24 years

The Boilermakers would have made it once in 84 years, that works out to once every 84 years:
  • 1936-1942, no appearances in seven years
  • 1943, appeared
  • 1944-2019, no appearances in 76 years

Longest droughts:
  • infinity, Rutgers
  • 76 years, Purdue since 1943
  • 59 years, Minnesota since 1960
  • 52 years, Indiana since 1967
  • 43 years, Maryland since 1976
  • 36 years, Illinois since 1983
  • 24 years, Northwestern since 1995
  • 18 years, Nebraska since 2001
  • 17 years, Iowa since 2002
  • 14 years, Penn State since 2005
  • 13 years, Michigan since 2006
  • 9 years, Wisconsin since 2010
  • 4 years, Michigan State since 2015
  • 0 years, Ohio State since 2019


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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #57 on: January 28, 2020, 05:46:48 PM »
tough decade for the Big

1989, 1986 for Michigan and 1985 for the Hawks
Illinois in 1983

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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #58 on: January 28, 2020, 05:59:27 PM »
oops, carelessly overlooked
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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #59 on: January 29, 2020, 06:27:28 AM »
More than a little surprised to see that Michigan St had more top 4 AP appearances at the end of the regular season than Penn St.  50s were a hell of decade for Sparty.

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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #60 on: January 29, 2020, 08:23:06 AM »
I'd say the doorstep for the Big Ten would be making it to Indy but peeing down your leg (Wisconsin)
Ya well they got there,gave it their best shot,left it all on the field.There is something to be said for persistence/perseverance
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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #61 on: January 29, 2020, 10:03:25 AM »
The better team won in Indy that day.

2016 is the one that hurts the most, as far as losing in Indy. There was no excuse to lose against PSU that day. The staff and players crapped the bed in the second half, period.
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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #62 on: January 29, 2020, 11:21:23 AM »
Yeah obviously you have to have a great season in order to blow a CFB appearance in Indy. Northwestern wasn't"on the doorstep." They could have beaten OSU by 100 and not found their way in.
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #63 on: January 29, 2020, 11:37:34 AM »
Huh?
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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #64 on: January 29, 2020, 11:44:17 AM »
the committee
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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #65 on: January 29, 2020, 04:44:40 PM »
More than a little surprised to see that Michigan St had more top 4 AP appearances at the end of the regular season than Penn St.  50s were a hell of decade for Sparty.
I think that kind of strengthens the discussion we had that seemingly the 70s, with a few year buffer either way, really sort of locked in the helmets.  Yes, MSU's 9 is more than PSU's 8, but 7 of MSU's 9 were between 1951-1966, then none until 2013.  PSU had 6 from 1968-1986.

And it's not that MSU wasn't just not CFP good in their down years, they were DOWN.  In the 41 years from that 1966 CFP through the arrival of Dantonio, MSU only finished ranked 6 times.  They only finished over .500 16 times.  Dennis Stolz seemed primed to get a mid 70s bounceback to respectability, and then MSU got hit with NCAA violations and a postseason ban, and recruiting limitations.

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« Reply #66 on: January 29, 2020, 08:43:02 PM »
Other than Sparty has anyone gotten in without stacking two or three top ten recruiting classes?
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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« Reply #67 on: January 29, 2020, 08:47:11 PM »
the Badgers and Hawkeyes aren't known for stacking top 20 recruiting classes
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« Reply #68 on: January 29, 2020, 08:51:29 PM »
the Badgers and Hawkeyes aren't known for stacking top 20 recruiting classes
And neither has made it.

Washington maybe did?

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« Reply #69 on: January 29, 2020, 10:27:21 PM »
Good call.
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

 

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