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Cincydawg · « **on:** February 24, 2020, 02:51:53 PM »

YOU are a top HS athlete at your position and have offers from nearly every major program out there. Where would you go, presuming you have zero allegiance to any program due to location or heritage.

Running Back

Quarter Back

WR

OL

DL

LB

DB/Safety

Bear in mind if you go to say Clemson you COULD be sitting for a year, or two, playing ST. If you go to say NW, you likely start out of the gate. Presume your academics are decent but not top tier and you want to play on Sunday.

FearlessF · « **Reply #1 on:** February 24, 2020, 03:03:22 PM »

ALL BUSINESS
Running Back - Wisconsin
Quarter Back - Clemson
WR - Ohio St.
OL - Wisconsin
DL - Ohio St.
LB - Wisconsin
DB/Safety - Ohio St.

ALL PLAYBOY
Running Back - USC
Quarter Back - USC
WR - USC
OL - USC
DL - USC
LB - USC
DB/Safety - USC

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #2 on:** February 24, 2020, 03:12:12 PM »

I'm not going to dig in position by position, but there would be several big factors that I'd be considering:

It would obviously be a P5 program for exposure. Sure, I might be able to go to a G5 program and be a day 1 starter and 3-year star, but would I get the recognition that would propel me to a career on Sundays? Particularly if I'm trying to get there in 3 years?
Coaching stability. This cuts multiple ways. The coach has to be successful enough at the program that I'm not concerned he's going to get canned. He has to be young enough that I'm not worried he's going to retire on my watch. And it has to be a decent enough program and situation for that coach that I'm not worried he'll get poached by a bigger program while I'm there.
Obviously the offensive or defensive system, and its ability to not only utilize, but to feature, my skill set is important. If I'm an RB, I'm not going to Purdue. If I'm a WR, I'm not going to Wisconsin.
I'll look obviously at the coaching staff's history of developing players.
I'm a pragmatist, so I'd value playing time over a bigger program. I want to be utilized as a star, not putting in all the work but still riding pine for 2-3 years before getting a shot. If I want to be in the NFL after 3 years, a redshirt and not seeing significant PT until year 4 or 5 doesn't help me.
That said, a big program isn't a deterrent IF I look at their roster and believe that they have need at my position due to their roster situation. If I see that there will be significant playing time openings when certain lock-down starters graduate, and maybe that's when I'm a sophomore, I'd take a bigger program for the chance to win more games and get a lot more exposure. The advantage to a bigger program is that I'm surrounded by better players so it's a lot easier for me to look successful if I'm not "carrying" my team.

In the Big Ten, schools like Iowa and Wisconsin fit the bill. Good enough programs that you'll get exposure, stable coaching situations, a history of developing players, but not so loaded with talent [like OSU, Alabama, etc] that you're unlikely to see significant playing time.

ELA · « **Reply #3 on:** February 24, 2020, 03:33:37 PM »

We did this a few years ago, and somehow I landed on Colorado. I set the parameters first, and was sort of surprised that's where I wound up.

Brutus Buckeye · « **Reply #4 on:** February 24, 2020, 04:01:32 PM »

I would sign up for the five year paid vacation to Hawaii.

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #5 on:** February 24, 2020, 04:42:00 PM »

Quote from: FearlessF on February 24, 2020, 03:03:22 PM

ALL BUSINESS
Running Back - Wisconsin
Quarter Back - Clemson
WR - Ohio St.
OL - Wisconsin
DL - Ohio St.
LB - Wisconsin
DB/Safety - Ohio St.

Agree with you there. You can do RBBC so you can get featured as the second or third back as an underclassman and still get PT.
Disagree. One problem with these schools that bring in an elite 5* QB every year is that only one will see the field. I'd only consider a school like Clemson if you're timing it such that you're coming in when a guy like Trevor Lawrence is right about to leave, i.e. a true freshman when he goes to the NFL or at worst one season before he'll go to the NFL so you get a year in the system and a leg up on the 5* behind you. I'd be more likely to go to the coach that can feature me the best (Leach, Brohm, etc), and hopefully at least have an OL that can keep me upright and give me time to throw (rules out Brohm for the time being lol).
Again disagree. WR is by definition a "by committee" kind of position, but it's also harder to get featured at a place like OSU. Again I fall back on Purdue here because it's the school I know best, but Rondale Moore would NOT have likely been a Freshman All-American at OSU. David Bell wouldn't win Big Ten Freshman of the Year at OSU. They'd have been lucky to see the field enough. (As an aside, if Moore hadn't been injured I'm not sure Bell would have been Freshman of the Year, because Moore would have siphoned away some of his stats.)
Agree. Wisconsin is an OL school, and they run the type of system that will get you looked at on Sunday.

I'm not as sure on defensive positions, but again I would say that it's much harder to "stand out" and get much playing time at a school like OSU, but not the case at a school like Wisconsin. You're not going to get drafted after 3 years in the program if you've only seen the field on special teams and in garbage time... [/list]

Cincydawg · « **Reply #6 on:** February 24, 2020, 04:52:04 PM »

The ACC for a while put a lot of guys into the NFL without being a great league. I might turn to some ACC teams, like UNC and UVA for some of these positions. FSU seems like it's in turmoil right now.

FearlessF · « **Reply #7 on:** February 24, 2020, 05:01:10 PM »

Quote from: bwarbiany on February 24, 2020, 04:42:00 PM

Agree with you there. You can do RBBC so you can get featured as the second or third back as an underclassman and still get PT.
Disagree. One problem with these schools that bring in an elite 5* QB every year is that only one will see the field. I'd only consider a school like Clemson if you're timing it such that you're coming in when a guy like Trevor Lawrence is right about to leave, i.e. a true freshman when he goes to the NFL or at worst one season before he'll go to the NFL so you get a year in the system and a leg up on the 5* behind you. I'd be more likely to go to the coach that can feature me the best (Leach, Brohm, etc), and hopefully at least have an OL that can keep me upright and give me time to throw (rules out Brohm for the time being lol).
Again disagree. WR is by definition a "by committee" kind of position, but it's also harder to get featured at a place like OSU. Again I fall back on Purdue here because it's the school I know best, but Rondale Moore would NOT have likely been a Freshman All-American at OSU. David Bell wouldn't win Big Ten Freshman of the Year at OSU. They'd have been lucky to see the field enough. (As an aside, if Moore hadn't been injured I'm not sure Bell would have been Freshman of the Year, because Moore would have siphoned away some of his stats.)
Agree. Wisconsin is an OL school, and they run the type of system that will get you looked at on Sunday.
I'm not as sure on defensive positions, but again I would say that it's much harder to "stand out" and get much playing time at a school like OSU, but not the case at a school like Wisconsin. You're not going to get drafted after 3 years in the program if you've only seen the field on special teams and in garbage time... [/list]

my thought on QB at Clemson is that the past QBs there have had great success and get a walk through the weak ACC. The Oline seems to be able to handle those defenses, plenty of top talent at WR as well. I agree about the timing of the outgoing 5 star and the incoming 5 star behind me.
My thought on WR at tOSU is that they put most WRs in the NFL. They will have a good to great QB to get the ball out.
Purdue is currently showcasing two stud WRs, but betting that the QB will always be there and the Oline will be there for the overall offense is risky. Also, Brohm is always rumored as moving on.
tOSU will reload at the head and assistant coach - well, they have for decades

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 24, 2020, 05:12:34 PM »

I think I mostly agree with @bwarbiany with a couple of changes.

At a position where there is generally ONE featured guy and everybody else gets limited substitution and garbage time minutes my decision would be mostly based on the rosters at the schools I was considering. Ie, if I were a QB or RB my decision would be all about roster.

If I were at a position where more than one guy sees the field like (basically anything other than QB, RB or a specialist P/K) then my decision would mostly be based on which schools I thought had the best coaches to develop my abilities.

I figure it this way:
I could be the second best QB or second best RB in the nation but if I'm only the second best QB or RB on my team then I'm still not going to get a lot of PT. At WR or DB or OL or DL there are multiple guys on the field every down so if I'm really THAT good then I'll get a chance to show it on the field no matter how good the other guys on my team's roster are.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #9 on:** February 24, 2020, 05:16:23 PM »

Obviously, offensive scheme is also a factor. Defensively, probably not really much of a consideration. On the other hand, a top QB might go to a program like UGA because even in a running dominated offense you will have plenty of shots, and your shots might be more open. And perhaps an RB could go to a pass happy offense knowing he will get fewer plays but might break them when he does while saving his legs.

OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #10 on:** February 24, 2020, 05:48:29 PM »

I'd want a good football/academic combo. UM, USC, Texas, Florida, Georgia, Wisconsin, PSU, etc. Any of them, for any position.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #11 on:** February 24, 2020, 05:55:03 PM »

I meant to rule out academics as a main factor. Personally, I'd go to Stanford if that were a factor, maybe Duke, but this person is wanting to make the NFL in 3 years and probably would take the minimum coursework to stay eligible.

It would be interesting to try and rank programs over the past say ten years on a 50-50 combination of academics and football results. Clemson is not awful academically, and Alabama is half decent. Ohio State might win that challenge.

OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #12 on:** February 24, 2020, 06:31:23 PM »

Idk, if you're going to a college, even to play football, I can't understand academics mattering 0%. You have to go to class, might as well be good classes.

FearlessF · « **Reply #13 on:** February 24, 2020, 06:33:49 PM »

Buckeyes don't go to Columbus to play "school"

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