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Topic: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas

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SFBadger96

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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #112 on: December 01, 2025, 12:05:16 PM »
Well...I suspect Texas made pretty good TV revenue from that loss. And they didn't know when they scheduled it that it might be the difference maker regarding its entry into the CFP. 

Smaller conferences, conference champions only. Problem solved.
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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #113 on: December 01, 2025, 12:06:18 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on December 01, 2025, 12:02:59 PM
Also, the lesson is-- never schedule a potential loss.
yes, that lesson has be taught by many for many decades.  Some just don't learn because.......... $$$ - TV money
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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #114 on: December 01, 2025, 12:06:48 PM »
A solution that isn't practicable or likely is not a solution.
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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #115 on: December 01, 2025, 12:07:55 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 01, 2025, 12:06:48 PM
A solution that isn't practicable or likely is not a solution.
Let a fella dream for two freakin' minutes, would ya?
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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #116 on: December 01, 2025, 12:11:20 PM »
Quote from: SFBadger96 on December 01, 2025, 12:05:16 PM
Well...I suspect Texas made pretty good TV revenue from that loss. And they didn't know when they scheduled it that it might be the difference maker regarding its entry into the CFP.

Smaller conferences, conference champions only. Problem solved.
The game was at Ohio State, so Texas made nothing from it.

But also, the TV revenue is the same no matter who you schedule.  So even with Ohio State making the return trip to Austin next year, Texas won't make any more or less than if they scheduled Wake Forest.




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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #117 on: December 01, 2025, 12:11:29 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on December 01, 2025, 12:02:59 PM
Also, the lesson is-- never schedule a potential loss.
I'm with you and that is why I started this thread.  The question, to me, is this:  Would Texas be in if they had beaten GaSo or some other cupcake at home instead of losing in Columbus back in week #1.  

Sadly, they probably would because the H2H over Oklahoma would probably have them ranked ahead of the Sooners.  They'd have quality wins over aTm, Oklahoma, and Vandy and a 'quality' loss to UGA.  The big stumbling blocks would be two things:
  • The Georgia loss wasn't close.  It was a two score (or more) game for almost the entire 4th quarter and ended up as a 25 point borderline blowout.  
  • The UF loss is bad.  



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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #118 on: December 01, 2025, 12:12:37 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on December 01, 2025, 12:11:20 PM
The game was at Ohio State, so Texas made nothing from it.

But also, the TV revenue is the same no matter who you schedule.  So even with Ohio State making the return trip to Austin next year, Texas won't make any more or less than if they scheduled Wake Forest.





I don't believe either of those statements
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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #119 on: December 01, 2025, 12:14:43 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 01, 2025, 12:06:18 PM
yes, that lesson has be taught by many for many decades.  Some just don't learn because.......... $$$ - TV money
The TV contracts are the TV contracts, regardless of who Texas schedules. The money is the same regardless.

I believe that going forward the SEC is going to have a requirement for everyone to play one P4 OOC, but that could be Boston College or Syracuse just as easily as it could be Ohio State, and the requirement would be satisfied.
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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #120 on: December 01, 2025, 12:17:20 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 01, 2025, 12:12:37 PM
I don't believe either of those statements
Then you don't understand how home-and-home games work.

Home team gets all the revenue.  The game goes on the home team conference's network deal.  And those network deals are made years in advance and the opponents for various teams aren't specified.  Fox pays the B1G whatever amount per year to televise various games, but they don't know what those games are going to be when the deal is struck. 
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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #121 on: December 01, 2025, 12:17:38 PM »
I'd guess that during negotiations for the future TV contract with the conference - future schedules are looked at and discussed
the Big Ten's whining didn't force the SEC to go to 9 conference games - the future TV contract forced the SEC
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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #122 on: December 01, 2025, 12:19:53 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 01, 2025, 12:17:38 PM
I'd guess that during negotiations for the future TV contract with the conference - future schedules are looked at and discussed
the Big Ten's whining didn't force the SEC to go to 9 conference games - the future TV contract forced the SEC

Seems like the SEC agreed to go to 9 conf games at the BIG's behest, in order to sway the playoff structure to the SEC preference.

I could be wrong on this, but thought that was the deal I read.
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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #123 on: December 01, 2025, 12:21:53 PM »
well, the deal is going to center around $$$, that's certain
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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #124 on: December 01, 2025, 12:23:24 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on December 01, 2025, 12:11:20 PM
The game was at Ohio State, so Texas made nothing from it.

But also, the TV revenue is the same no matter who you schedule.  So even with Ohio State making the return trip to Austin next year, Texas won't make any more or less than if they scheduled Wake Forest.

Right.  

Now, the gate stands to be a much bigger take for Ohio State coming to Texas, rather than, say, Fresno State.  But even that, I'm not sure how it works.  It's possible the face value of the tickets is all a university really takes in, and those tend to be rather stable.  The secondary market, though.....hoo boy.....those ticket prices go through the roof when an Ohio State comes to town.  
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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #125 on: December 01, 2025, 12:23:55 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 01, 2025, 12:17:38 PM
I'd guess that during negotiations for the future TV contract with the conference - future schedules are looked at and discussed
the Big Ten's whining didn't force the SEC to go to 9 conference games - the future TV contract forced the SEC
Three things.

1) There's a huge difference  between conference scheduling, and non-conference scheduling.  Texas can play whoever it wants OOC and the money's the same either way.  ABC/ESPN doesn't get to tell Texas who to schedule, it just doesn't work that way.  They can, and have, influenced the SEC to require all teams to play at least one P4 OOC each year.  But that's as far as it goes.  It could be Ohio State, or it could be Syracuse.  Texas gets the same cut of the SEC television money either way.

2) The TV contract didn't force the SEC into 9 games, the SEC told Disney the number would remain at 8 unless/until Disney was ready to pay more.  ETA-- yes and also the B1G and Disney made concessions on playoff format.

3) The networks might look at future schedules but there's still nothing stopping schools from canceling or changing their future opponents.  And many future games aren't even set when the TV deals are negotiated, anyway.
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