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Topic: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas

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betarhoalphadelta

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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #70 on: November 30, 2025, 04:13:35 PM »
How about on the flip side?

Did OSU and Oklahoma gain anything by beating Texas and Michigan in the beginning of the season?

Or would they be in the exact same boat, had they beaten North Texas and Central Michigan?
I'd say Oklahoma might have benefited. The only conference team that they beat who actually had a winning conference record was Alabama (7-1). They lost to Ole Miss (7-1) and Texas (6-2), and beat teams who were 4-4, 4-4, 3-5, 1-7, and 1-7. 

If they'd scheduled a patsy, 9-3 Texas into the CFP over 10-2 Oklahoma would be VERY easy to justify, with a H2H game where Texas beat them by 17. With them getting a decent OOC win, they have a resume worth actually having the discussion. Texas still has 3 marquee wins, but one bad loss (Florida). Oklahoma has two marquee wins, and zero bad losses. 

OSU at 12-0 would be fine either way. As Fearless says maybe they'd be sitting at #2 instead of #1, but they could easily jump right to #1 this coming Saturday. 

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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #71 on: November 30, 2025, 04:30:56 PM »
So, sorta? 

These big marquis ooc used to be the only way you could play any of these teams outside of a bowl game. Now USC, Oregon and UDub are in the conference, so you don't have to schedule any of them ooc in order to play them. Then if you run through the playoffs, you play up to four big marquis games in a month, to finish the season. 

I'm not really sure that they are all that necessary anymore. 

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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #72 on: November 30, 2025, 05:23:24 PM »
What was the Big Ten's channel for the worse conference game?  For the SEC, it was Jefferson Pilot.  I can't remember what it was before that.  It's where Kentucky would play Miss State.  Pre-streaming services.

Anyway, that's what the ACCCG reminds me of - one of those games.

Ours was Raycom I believe.  Before JP. 

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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #73 on: November 30, 2025, 05:55:27 PM »
So, sorta?

These big marquis ooc used to be the only way you could play any of these teams outside of a bowl game. Now USC, Oregon and UDub are in the conference, so you don't have to schedule any of them ooc in order to play them. Then if you run through the playoffs, you play up to four big marquis games in a month, to finish the season.

I'm not really sure that they are all that necessary anymore.
Well, you asked if they gained anything, not whether they'd have chances to even play these teams... 

I'm saying that Oklahoma has a better CFP resume for the committee at 10-2 with a win over Michigan than they would with a win over North Texas. And that it might be material, since one of the schools they'd be battling for one of those final spots is Texas, who beat them H2H. 

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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #74 on: November 30, 2025, 05:57:53 PM »
It is also interesting because Ole Miss' schedule was remarkably weak.

They went 1-1 against SEC teams that finished with a non-losing league record, Ole Miss' SEC games:
  • 7-1 UGA, lost 43-35 on the road.
  • 6-2 Oklahoma, won 34-26 on the road
  • 3-5 LSU, won 24-19 at home
  • 2-6 Kentucky won 30-23 on the road
  • 2-6 Florida, won 30-24 at home
  • 1-7 MissSt, won 38-19 on the road
  • 1-7 South Carolina, won 30-14 at home
  • 0-8 Arkansas, won 41-35 at home

Then there is their OOC. Three of the four are indisputably weak: GaSt, WSU, Citadel. The fourth is . . . Intersting. Ole Miss beat Tulane 45-10 and the Green Wave are ranked #24 and a potential playoff team as they are playing North Texas on Friday for the AAC Championship.
I can see a path where they drop OM just like they did to FSU two years ago. 

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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #75 on: November 30, 2025, 06:28:51 PM »
What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas?

Ohio State did what the NCAA wouldn't, banned Michigan from the college football playoffs.
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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #76 on: November 30, 2025, 07:40:51 PM »
I will be happy once the SEC starts playing 9 conference games in 2026 so that its schedule can finally be fairly compared to the Big Ten.  All Texas did by playing Ohio St was add a 9th P4 team to its schedule.  Oklahoma only played 9 p4 teams, etc

If you think about it, by the Big Ten playing 9 conference games, that adds 9 more losses total that all its teams have compared to if they would have scheduled 18 cupcakes instead.  How many more top 25 teams would the Big Ten have with 9 fewer losses total?

The SEC is going to find out what 9 conference games do their win-loss records. 
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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #77 on: November 30, 2025, 08:54:57 PM »
SOS
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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #78 on: November 30, 2025, 09:50:57 PM »
I will be happy once the SEC starts playing 9 conference games in 2026 so that its schedule can finally be fairly compared to the Big Ten.  All Texas did by playing Ohio St was add a 9th P4 team to its schedule.  Oklahoma only played 9 p4 teams, etc

If you think about it, by the Big Ten playing 9 conference games, that adds 9 more losses total that all its teams have compared to if they would have scheduled 18 cupcakes instead.  How many more top 25 teams would the Big Ten have with 9 fewer losses total?

The SEC is going to find out what 9 conference games do their win-loss records. 
As if someone forced the Big Ten to have 9 conference games this whole time.  FFS

Endless whining about something that isn't against any rule.
I'm happy the SEC is moving to 9 just so the Big Ten fans can shut the fuck up about it.
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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #79 on: November 30, 2025, 10:00:28 PM »
no one forced the Big Ten

the Big Ten forced the SEC SEC SEC

hopefully, we don't hear any whining from the SEC

because, they can just STFU
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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #80 on: November 30, 2025, 10:16:24 PM »
I will be happy once the SEC starts playing 9 conference games in 2026 so that its schedule can finally be fairly compared to the Big Ten.  All Texas did by playing Ohio St was add a 9th P4 team to its schedule.  Oklahoma only played 9 p4 teams, etc

If you think about it, by the Big Ten playing 9 conference games, that adds 9 more losses total that all its teams have compared to if they would have scheduled 18 cupcakes instead.  How many more top 25 teams would the Big Ten have with 9 fewer losses total?

The SEC is going to find out what 9 conference games do their win-loss records.
9 games What a joke. Chances are you’d end up with one extra game vs Kentucky or some other perennial bottom feeder. 

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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #81 on: November 30, 2025, 10:23:47 PM »
true, but then Kentucky or some other perennial bottom feeder eats a loss, not a win
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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #82 on: December 01, 2025, 01:48:00 AM »
Reminds me of 2008, OSU was preseason #1, lost bad to USC, and the season was over before the Big Ten slate even started. They benched the QB that took them to the NCG the year before, and it was rebuilding mode with a freshman Terrelle Pryor.
That one always stuck out to me too. Like I remember watching that game in week, two and thinking, well, they’re cooked.

if that’s a cupcake, they probably still don’t get in, but they’re definitely in the mix for most of the season.

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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #83 on: December 01, 2025, 01:49:26 AM »
What was the Big Ten's channel for the worse conference game?  For the SEC, it was Jefferson Pilot.  I can't remember what it was before that.  It's where Kentucky would play Miss State.  Pre-streaming services.

Anyway, that's what the ACCCG reminds me of - one of those games.
When I was in college, it was ESPN plus on some sort of local network. Granted, I am probably one of the five youngest people on the board.

 

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