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Topic: What non-AP/UPI NCs would you recognize?

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FearlessF

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Re: What non-AP/UPI NCs would you recognize?
« Reply #14 on: Today at 09:49:14 AM »
I mean Michigan is claiming 97 - who cares?
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Re: What non-AP/UPI NCs would you recognize?
« Reply #15 on: Today at 12:14:11 PM »
I swear I think everyone is missing the point on this thread.  OAM is asking what schools, in OUR opinion, could have a beef with not being recognized as national champions.  I guess I’m not understanding the whole “they can do what they want, what do I care?” responses. 

I mentioned two schools that aren’t even claiming titles for the years I mentioned (at least not that I know of).  I just think there is a case that could be made for them.
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Re: What non-AP/UPI NCs would you recognize?
« Reply #16 on: Today at 12:30:10 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on Today at 12:14:11 PM
I swear I think everyone is missing the point on this thread.  OAM is asking what schools, in OUR opinion, could have a beef with not being recognized as national champions.  I guess I’m not understanding the whole “they can do what they want, what do I care?” responses.

I mentioned two schools that aren’t even claiming titles for the years I mentioned (at least not that I know of).  I just think there is a case that could be made for them.
Yeah, I think some folks are being quick to dismiss it all.

It's a fun hypothetical.  I can't really think of any teams that have been omitted, that haven't already been mentioned.

I suppose several teams had a partial claim in 1983, there was a jumble of five 1-loss teams in the Top 5.  Texas had beaten Auburn by a couple of TDs @Auburn, but lost by a point to Georgia in the Cotton Bowl.  Auburn had lost to Texas at home but beaten Georgia by a TD in Athens.  Georgia lost that Auburn game at home and also tied Clemson early in the season.  Miami lost to a Florida team that had lost to both Auburn and Georgia and tied USC.  And Nebraska lost to Miami by 1 point in the Orange Bowl.

Really any of those teams could have been called #1.  
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Re: What non-AP/UPI NCs would you recognize?
« Reply #17 on: Today at 12:39:30 PM »
Great Post,seems like someone in that knotted mess could always shout "SCOREBOARD" at another claiming they own the Hardare
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Re: What non-AP/UPI NCs would you recognize?
« Reply #18 on: Today at 12:50:23 PM »
I've said for years now that ASU should legitimately claim a 1975 national title. 

Even 1970 ASU could claim. 
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Re: What non-AP/UPI NCs would you recognize?
« Reply #19 on: Today at 01:24:06 PM »
Howdy Frog Face! Been a long time!
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« Reply #20 on: Today at 01:25:51 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: Today at 01:27:58 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on Today at 12:30:10 PM
Yeah, I think some folks are being quick to dismiss it all.

It's a fun hypothetical.  I can't really think of any teams that have been omitted, that haven't already been mentioned.

I suppose several teams had a partial claim in 1983, there was a jumble of five 1-loss teams in the Top 5.  Texas had beaten Auburn by a couple of TDs @Auburn, but lost by a point to Georgia in the Cotton Bowl.  Auburn had lost to Texas at home but beaten Georgia by a TD in Athens.  Georgia lost that Auburn game at home and also tied Clemson early in the season.  Miami lost to a Florida team that had lost to both Auburn and Georgia and tied USC.  And Nebraska lost to Miami by 1 point in the Orange Bowl.

Really any of those teams could have been called #1. 
1983 is a good one.  A big factor that season was the timing of the losses.  In today’s world that isn’t nearly as big a deal.
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Re: What non-AP/UPI NCs would you recognize?
« Reply #22 on: Today at 02:34:30 PM »
Quote from: DevilFroggy on Today at 12:50:23 PM
I've said for years now that ASU should legitimately claim a 1975 national title.

Even 1970 ASU could claim.
1975....last time A&M was ranked #1, I believe.  Choked to Arkansas, for some reason game was rescheduled to December for TV, and we seriously blew it.  
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« Reply #23 on: Today at 02:38:21 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on Today at 02:34:30 PM
1975....last time A&M was ranked #1, I believe.  Choked to Arkansas, for some reason game was rescheduled to December for TV, and we seriously blew it. 
You nailed it, the reason was for TV.  They did the same thing for the 1969 Texas-Arkansas game, moved it from its historical date on the 3rd Saturday of October, to the end of the season, to make a bigger TV matchup.  Fortunately in that one, the Horns didn't blow it.
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Re: What non-AP/UPI NCs would you recognize?
« Reply #24 on: Today at 02:50:01 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on Today at 12:14:11 PM
I swear I think everyone is missing the point on this thread.  OAM is asking what schools, in OUR opinion, could have a beef with not being recognized as national champions.  I guess I’m not understanding the whole “they can do what they want, what do I care?” responses.
I did miss the "point of the thread", entirely, it happens.
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Re: What non-AP/UPI NCs would you recognize?
« Reply #25 on: Today at 04:01:52 PM »
you knew a bama fan had to come in to claim more title right? :)

i'd drop the claimed 1941 title, and pick up:
 - 1945 (undefeated, untied, rose bowl winners, others have similar records and no beef with them claiming)
 - 1966 (undefeated, untied, sugar bowl winners, the only team with that record, also the only time a team has started ranked #1, gone undefeated and untied and won bowl game and not been awarded title). 
 - 1977 (11-1 record, was #3 going into bowl, sugar bowl winner. #1, #2, and #4 all lost bowls, #5 notre dame beat #1 texas and jumped over bama to be #1. bama and nd had 2 common opponents, bama went 2-0, nd 1-1. don't have a huge problem with nd claiming, just think bama has strong argument to claim as well.) (in 77, bama played ooc opp @ neb (l), @ usc (w), louisville (w), miami (w), and osu (w - bowl))

both 66 and 77 would have completed a 3-peat, btw. 66 end capping one, 77 starting one. 
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« Reply #26 on: Today at 04:40:42 PM »
Quote from: rolltidefan on Today at 04:01:52 PM
you knew a bama fan had to come in to claim more title right? :)

i'd drop the claimed 1941 title, and pick up:
 - 1945 (undefeated, untied, rose bowl winners, others have similar records and no beef with them claiming)
 - 1966 (undefeated, untied, sugar bowl winners, the only team with that record, also the only time a team has started ranked #1, gone undefeated and untied and won bowl game and not been awarded title).
 - 1977 (11-1 record, was #3 going into bowl, sugar bowl winner. #1, #2, and #4 all lost bowls, #5 notre dame beat #1 texas and jumped over bama to be #1. bama and nd had 2 common opponents, bama went 2-0, nd 1-1. don't have a huge problem with nd claiming, just think bama has strong argument to claim as well.) (in 77, bama played ooc opp @ neb (l), @ usc (w), louisville (w), miami (w), and osu (w - bowl))

both 66 and 77 would have completed a 3-peat, btw. 66 end capping one, 77 starting one.
See this is a very good point.  
A&M Claims 1919 and 1927.  Don't really know the specifics except 1917 is undefeated and unscored on.  1919 was as well.  
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Re: What non-AP/UPI NCs would you recognize?
« Reply #27 on: Today at 06:31:37 PM »
I didn’t know the backstory on the 66 and 77 Bama teams.  Yeah, they got a beef 
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