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Topic: What are a few things you've learned thus far in the season?

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What are a few things you've learned thus far in the season?
« on: October 23, 2022, 09:01:17 AM »
There are some obvious things of course, like Ohio State has a good offense.  The top teams are mostly the same as preseason polls had them except for Tennessee.  Teams in the preseaon top ten that have dropped hard include Notre Dame, A&M, Oklahoma, and Baylor.  The second ten had some drop hard as well, Miami, Pitt, Wisconsin, Arkansas.

So, about 40% of the preseason top 20 at this point don't look very good at all.  LSU will get some notice now.  Clemson won't play another ranked team in the regular season now.  So, the playoffs may be shaping up?

Clemson
Ohio State - Michigan winner
Alabama - UGA - Tenn winner
TCU???  One of the above?  Oregon?  

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Re: What are a few things you've learned thus far in the season?
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2022, 09:09:58 AM »
There will not be a G5 team this year, that's for sure.
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Re: What are a few things you've learned thus far in the season?
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2022, 09:49:59 AM »
Maryland is 6-2, with two close losses.  They still have PSu and OSU ahead.

Rutgers is 4-3 after a 4 game skid followed by the win over Indiana.  They could make a bowl, but tough games ahead.

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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2022, 09:58:31 AM »
Maryland is 6-2, with two close losses.  They still have PSu and OSU ahead.

Rutgers is 4-3 after a 4 game skid followed by the win over Indiana.  They could make a bowl, but tough games ahead.
And in two weeks, they will be in Madison.

UMD didn't look all that good yesterday - at home against NU.
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Re: What are a few things you've learned thus far in the season?
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2022, 10:19:36 AM »
Okie St. if they win a rematch with TCU?
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Re: What are a few things you've learned thus far in the season?
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2022, 10:21:10 AM »
There are some obvious things of course, like Ohio State has a good offense.  The top teams are mostly the same as preseason polls had them except for Tennessee.  Teams in the preseaon top ten that have dropped hard include Notre Dame, A&M, Oklahoma, and Baylor.  The second ten had some drop hard as well, Miami, Pitt, Wisconsin, Arkansas.

So, about 40% of the preseason top 20 at this point don't look very good at all.  LSU will get some notice now.  Clemson won't play another ranked team in the regular season now.  So, the playoffs may be shaping up?

Clemson
Ohio State - Michigan winner
Alabama - UGA - Tenn winner
TCU???  One of the above?  Oregon? 
I think I've learned that Marcus Freeman might be in over his head at Notre Dame- for a really young guy who has never been a head coach and barely a co-ordinator to take over a job like that- tough thing to do, that Jimbo continues to outright FLEECE A&M for $100 mil, and that Oklahoma might've hired the wrong guy.

I kinda knew that Miami, Pitt, and Arkansas would all stink and are pretenders. Miami at this point should just close down the football program. They ain't ever coming back and are straight up an embarrassment. Not that they were ever going to be good, but Arkansas is kinda screwed with Oklahoma and Texas coming into the SEC. They might never be good again. There are only so many players to go around- and they'll all be going to UGA/UF/OU/TX/Bama/LSU/Ole Miss before they even consider going to Arkansas. 

Clemson is a lock to get in bc: ACC is god awful and they've eeked out wins vs some mediocre teams and no one left can get them imo. Who left can maybe beat? MAYBE Notre Dame? Doubtful though.

OSU-Michigan winner is in. One not both, is getting in. So you've got two of the 4 slots locked in- OSU/MICH and Clemson.

SEC has a really good shot at getting two teams in. BAMA wins out they are in- and then one of UGA/Tenn could backdoor in. 

B12/P12 going to fight over the last slot. I'll say this if USC runs the table and is 11-1 and gets into the PAC CCG and wins and is a 12-1 PAC champion with their only loss being by 1 point @Utah - pressure is going to mount to include them. Media loves them some USC, Lincoln Riley, and Caleb Williams. Even if I happen to think the latter two are seriously overrated. Riley is an insanely awesome OC, but he doesn't care about defense at all. Caleb Williams is pretty damn good- but he's not otherworldly good. That system makes QBs look better than they actually are. Think we're seeing that play out with how god awful Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray are in the NFL- and while Jalen Hurts is doing pretty well with the Eagles he's far more game manager than he is bus driver. He's just not screwing things up- which is all that team needs right now bc it's loaded everywhere. 

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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2022, 10:23:12 AM »
And in two weeks, they will be in Madison.

UMD didn't look all that good yesterday - at home against NU.
They were playing their back-up QB. And to be fair, Wisconsin hasn't looked that good all season save for maybe two games. If Taulia is back I think they'll have a legit shot to beat an improving but not great Wisconsin team. Bad Graham Mertz still lurks around the corner everywhere. He giveth and he taketh away.

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Re: What are a few things you've learned thus far in the season?
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2022, 10:31:52 AM »
The Kelly experiment at LSU is interesting.  I usually don't judge a coach after half a season except for obvious stuff.  USC certainly looks the part but is that due to coaching or did they finally really get some solid talent again?  ND/OU could be the reverse of that, not sure at all.  The QB is such a pivotal position.

I think we can start to judge Jimbo.  Maybe next year he HAS to do something?

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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2022, 10:37:08 AM »
The Kelly experiment at LSU is interesting.  I usually don't judge a coach after half a season except for obvious stuff.  USC certainly looks the part but is that due to coaching or did they finally really get some solid talent again?  ND/OU could be the reverse of that, not sure at all.  The QB is such a pivotal position.

I think we can start to judge Jimbo.  Maybe next year he HAS to do something?
Kelly is a really good coach, he's just an awful recruiter. He hates it. This was well documented at ND. If you look, ND's recruiting took off with Freeman at the helm. But....Freeman isn't the coach Kelly is. I think Kelly will work out so long as he keeps awesome recruiters on his staff. Dude would honestly probably be a better fit in the NFL where he'd never have to recruit. But the only problem is he can't turn purple and scream at grown ass men in the NFL. They'd tell him to F off. So maybe he has to stick to college. But the dude can coach. He just doesn't get the talent needed to win big. He hates recruiting.

Jimbo should be done this year. But that buyout is going to keep him at A&M for at least a few more years.

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Re: What are a few things you've learned thus far in the season?
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2022, 10:40:19 AM »
They were playing their back-up QB. And to be fair, Wisconsin hasn't looked that good all season save for maybe two games. If Taulia is back I think they'll have a legit shot to beat an improving but not great Wisconsin team. Bad Graham Mertz still lurks around the corner everywhere. He giveth and he taketh away.
I think UW has turned the corner. Mertz too. We'll see in two weeks, in Madison.
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Re: What are a few things you've learned thus far in the season?
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2022, 10:40:50 AM »
The Kelly experiment at LSU is interesting.  I usually don't judge a coach after half a season except for obvious stuff.  USC certainly looks the part but is that due to coaching or did they finally really get some solid talent again?  ND/OU could be the reverse of that, not sure at all.  The QB is such a pivotal position.

I think we can start to judge Jimbo.  Maybe next year he HAS to do something?
Muleshoe took some good talent with him, thanks to the portal
only one of the reasons Brent has a rough start in Norman
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Re: What are a few things you've learned thus far in the season?
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2022, 11:23:04 AM »
re: Jimbo....they ran Sumlin outta town...gave Jimbo a $100mil contract and $30 mil in NIL money to buy players....and they still suck LOL. And Jimbo suppose to be an "offensive guru" and "QB whisperer" uhm.....


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Re: What are a few things you've learned thus far in the season?
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2022, 11:42:17 AM »
also....looking at Miami and how bad they are on offense right now...maybe Josh Gattis leaving Michigan wasn't such a bad thing....

 

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