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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9717 on: April 11, 2024, 08:03:14 AM »
https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/4585709-the-mainstream-medias-climate-coverage-is-blinkered-and-condescending/
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The BBC host pressed the South American leader about the “oil and gas” drilling that was about to take place in the country, and the “billions” of carbon emissions that would be released as a result.

Ali stopped him in his tracks, pointing to the fact that the forest in Guyana that has been preserved “is the size of England and Scotland combined.”

“We have kept this forest alive that stores 19.5 gigatons of carbon, that you enjoy, that the world enjoys, that you don’t pay us for,” he said.



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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9718 on: April 11, 2024, 08:03:31 AM »
The goal is to stay in “crisis mode,” so that “every time there’s a weather event, they have to connect it to climate change, to keep the fear factor up.”
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9719 on: April 11, 2024, 09:57:17 AM »
https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/4585709-the-mainstream-medias-climate-coverage-is-blinkered-and-condescending/
The simple question is why climate reporting isn't better...

I think the answer is that most journalists aren't capable of covering it, and most of their customers are too dumb to understand it anyway. 

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9720 on: April 11, 2024, 03:52:55 PM »
After climate tipping points, change will come slowly, then all at once | The Hill

Basically another hand wringing op ed, with NO hint of an outline of a shred of a glimmer of a PLAN.  Let's stipulate for the moment that the fears below are REAL and CONSEQUENTIALLY BAD.  Horrorifically bad.  What should we be doing?  Throw some money at it?  Wind and solar?  Complain and whine and moan?

Or MAYBE "we" should come up with an actual PLAN to DO something?

Climate scientists are beginning to worry we may be at a terrifying juncture, where the climate shifts dramatically from one state to another. An abrupt global warming episode, during which climate changes happen in decades not centuries, and interrelated tipping points cascade into one another amplifying the sudden shift in the world climate, pushing the planet out of the temperate sweet spot we humans have been lucky enough to live in.   

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9721 on: April 11, 2024, 04:24:12 PM »
The simple question is why climate reporting isn't better...
NPR editor’s tell-all confirms what we already knew about the media | The Hill

As you noted, there is a lot of herd mentality out there.  And not going with the herd has consequences.  And then there is the fact that very very few journalists have much if any training in the sciences.  

This is one reason I read Judith Curry's blog site (not so much some others who contribute).  She pretty well lays this out with hard examples, and she is NOT s "denier".  She gets called that often as a way to diminish her message.  It's predictable.

And as I often note, for most of "us", it's purely political, not technical.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9722 on: April 11, 2024, 04:32:44 PM »
NPR? Really?
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9723 on: April 11, 2024, 04:49:55 PM »
I'm not sure of your point.  

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9724 on: April 11, 2024, 05:18:45 PM »
Zero credibility at NPR. Not worth a click.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9725 on: April 11, 2024, 05:28:41 PM »
The reference is not to NPR.  

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9726 on: April 11, 2024, 05:37:15 PM »
The Hill reporting on what NPR's editor has to say. Not touching that.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9727 on: April 11, 2024, 05:40:50 PM »
Former editor excoriates NPR for bias.  

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« Reply #9728 on: April 11, 2024, 05:50:47 PM »
Yep.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9729 on: April 12, 2024, 08:33:29 AM »
It's an interesting point, I think, about how anything "technical" or complex is rarely reported accurately or evenhandedly.  It gets "dumbed down" to a point that loses meaning, or a conclusion is set in stone before anything is disseminated.

And many humans base their "opinions" about such things based on their political views.  You won't find many liberals who think climate change is a hoax, or even that it may be real but is not that much of a problem, and you won't find many conservatives who thinks it's real and serious and needs urgent attention.

I could devise a questionaire I think that would pretty accurately assess your political views without asking a single political question.

Is you COVID vaccine up to date?

Do you view climate change as an urgent problem?

Etc.

 

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